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Re: Typical Business Telephone Sets Today?

I am a Sock Puppet (
Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:04:58 -0400

J.P. wrote:

> One of the things I appreciated about the Executone IDS systems I used
> to maintain is that the "wave" desk phones had 2500-style keypads on
> them instead of the keypads found on the new business system phones
> (buttons wrong size, a 'mushy' feel to them, etc.). Nothing beats
> those old tried and true keypads.

> J.P. Wing

I wonder if they are even available anymore since Intertel bought them out.

I know they do make cards that let you use them on your intertel system
if you already own them, but I don't know if you can buy them new anymore.

T. Sean Weintz wrote:

> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Even in the case of Centrex it is very
> rare that telco provides an _actual wire pair to the outside_ for
> every phone thus equipped.

I think you misunderstood my use of the word "outside". By "outside",
I meant "leaving the cusomers property" - IE: going back to the CO,
where the centrex switch is. I did not mean a connection to the PTSN
for each keyset.

And of course they charge for each centrex line going back to the CO.
Out here SBC has pitched us about 35 a month for centrex 1100, about
15 a month for centrex 3100. They can't seem to get it thru their
brains that $0 a month for PBX connections that we oiwn outright is a
better deal.


> Remember that 'centrex' means that telco has your 'PBX' on its
> premises rather than in your office. Otherwise calls in or out are
> handled about the same way and with the same rules in place. PAT]

EXACTLY. I knew that -- I think my choice of the word "outside" was a
mistake. To me, the lines going to the centrex switch at the CO are
"outside lines" - they leave the building, and you pay every month for
them. Which is why it is such a bad deal for places such as us, where
capital expenditure money is much easier to come up with than
operating cash.


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