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Re: Some Fear Law Would Create National ID Card


hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
28 Apr 2005 07:03:18 -0700

Monty Solomon wrote:

> By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff

> WASHINGTON -- Congress is poised to pass a law that would make
> sweeping changes to the nation's system for issuing driver's licenses
> by imposing stringent requirements on states to verify the
> authenticity of birth certificates, Social Security cards, legal
> residency visas, and bank and utility records used to obtain a
> license.

Many states do this now. It's virtually impossible to live in this
day and age without an official state issued ID card -- either a
driver's license or state ID card. (Some states issue an official ID
card for those who don't have a license). Other IDs like credit cards
or employer work-IDs are no longer accepted.

This includes even when you are paying cash up front for something --
they still want ID to see that you are who you claim you are.

I'm a little troubled by this. Why can't someone have some anonymity
in their life? If I go to a doctor and pay the $75 in cash up front,
why do they need to see ID? Even when you rent a storage locker and
pay in advance they want ID.

> Touted as an antiterrorism measure, the "Real ID Act" would also
> overturn laws in nine states that allow illegal immigrants to obtain
> driver's licenses.

This country has to come to terms with its CONTRADICTORY policies of
illegal immigrants. On the one hand, they expend a great deal of
effort keeping illegals out. But once they're here, they're afforded
lots of benefits and rarely get kicked out, and that's not fair to
those waiting through proper channels for a quota slot.

Illegal aliens cost some places big money since they have to provide
services but the illegals tend to be "underground" and not pay any
taxes nor are counted for reimbursement. On the other hand, illegals
fill employment needs for jobs more established Americans refuse to
take.

A lot of business interests very much illegals to be left alone.

> The law, some say, would effectively turn the new driver's license
> into a national identification card. Its chief champion, House
> Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner, Republican of Wisconsin, says
> the measure would help prevent terrorists from fraudulently gaining
> official documents that would allow them to enter the country and move
> freely.

The driver's license is pretty much already a national ID. However, I
don't agree with the above. Terrorists are not isolated and are
bankrolled; as such, they can spend the money needed to beat the
system. Further, the existing system has and will continue to have
more holes than a screen door -- making these ID cards won't help. As
to "moving about freely", will the govt establish official checkpoints
at various places? "Your papers? No papers? You will have to come
with us?"

> Terrorists have "used almost every conceivable means of entering the
> country," Sensenbrenner said in a statement provided by an aide.
> "They have come as students, tourists, and business visitors. They
> have also been [legal permanent residents] and naturalized US
> citizens. They have snuck across the border illegally, arrived as
> stowaways on ships, used false passports, and have been granted
> amnesty. Terrorists have even used America's humanitarian tradition
> of welcoming those seeking asylum. We must plug these gaps."

How many terrorists have entered this country? Counting all those
methods described above, it appears to be a very great many.

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