Date: 6 Aug 2018 13:10:32 -0400
From: "John Levine" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Re: New Jersey gets new area code
In article <5B67AF17.email@example.com> you write:
>The only "pain" of an overlay is 10D dialing. I don't know where to find
>a cellphone using Millennial who knows how to dial 7D.
My daughter certainly does. Our area code 607 was one of the earlier
splits, hacked out of 315 and 716 in 1954, and we've been snoozing
ever since. (We proudly call ourselves Centrally Isolated.)
All 607 exchanges have 7D dialing, even the mobile ones, even though
the area is split between two LATAs, so the price for a 7D call from
a landline might be free (local), cheap (intra-LATA toll) or fairly
cheap (inter-LATA toll.)
The NANPA exhaust analysis says we will never need an overlay. So there.
***** Moderator's Note *****
John, I envy you: here in western North Carolina, most landlines can
dial 7D, but cellphones have to dial 10D, and it's very common to see
phone numbers advertised without the "828" area code. Not only does
this confuse many new arrivals who bring cell phones, but if there's
ever an overlay here, there'll be a meltdown.
Date: 6 Aug 2018 10:28:15 -0700
From: HAncock4 <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Re: Backup Power for Cox [or other] ISP [Telecom]
> ***** Moderator's Note *****
> In Massachusetts, the legislature was more concerned with *where* the
> concentrators were being placed: mostly in low-income, high-crime
> sections. They were known as "two-man areas" to the outside plant
> crews, because there were always two employess on any truck dispatched
> My aunt lived in such an area - the Columbia Point housing project in
> Dorchester. I lifted her phone once when I was visiting, and heard a
> busy signal: she explained that it meant there weren't any wires
> ready to place the call, and that I'd have to wait. I told her that it
> was unfair and that she should complain. She thought that was very
The 1960s and 1970s were tough time for both Bell and the independents.
Below is a link to a discussion from January about payphone vandalism:
IMHO, the excessive time and money phone companies had to spend to
repairing vandalism to its infrastructure and security (like two-man
crews) contributed to the service crises of the 1970s.
Date: 7 Aug 2018 09:43:22 -0500
From: "Doug McIntyre" <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: Backup Power for Cox [or other] ISP
"Fred Atkinson" <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> How many of you continue to push antiquated technology to your
Many of the "new" technology isn't better, it is just shuffling the
money to somebody else now.
Eg. my company decided my hybrid digital PBX wasn't worth it, so for
even more MRC, they pushed VoIP on us, and if I get more employees in this
office, the MRC will go up even more. It has less features. Eg.
we used to be able to do modem testing and FAX's. Now we have to buy
an external crappy FAX service whose website looks and acts like it
will only work with Internet Explorer 6. We used to have crystal
clear conference calling, now we have to again buy external conference
bridges that sound like crap and have major delays. (I'm not the one
buying these services unfortunately).
So, for far more money monthly, we shuffled the money onto the "new players"
in the market, for far less reliability, usability, etc. because
everybody has to be VoIP.
> We should be able to rely on the new technology and the providers
>should provide backup power so that their service continues to operate
>in the event of a power failure.
Its all about the profit margin now-a-days. We aren't going back to
the time when things were built to last forever, and be as robust as
possible. You say providers *should* do this, but we live in the age
of "it works good enough most of the time", and this is never going to
happen because there isn't enough demand for it.
> If the customer wishes to provide a UPS or other means of keeping
>his/her hone network devices going in the event of a power failure,
>that would be their responsibility.
The maintenance of keeping a UPS for communication services at a
typical residence is way beyond the capabilities of most consumers.
ie. UPS batteries need to be replaced every 3 to 5 years, and most
UPSs are horrible at methods used to say when the battery needs to be
replaced (ie. APC units tend to just drop power on the protected
side). What would the typical consumer do? Probably unplug the UPS and
throw it away, leaving them without any of it. -- Doug McIntyre
***** Moderator's Note *****
As has been pointed out in the past, "UPS" devices are *NOT* intended
to provide power for any longer than it takes to shut the computer
down gracefully, i.e., without losing data. Anything longer than a few
minutes requires a power source, such as a generator, that can run
End of telecom Digest Wed, 08 Aug 2018