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The Telecom Digest for Aug 18, 2015
Volume 34 : Issue 152 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Still no Verizon FiOS for Boston (David Scheidt)
Re: Still no Verizon FiOS for Boston (Doug McIntyre)
Corporate Spyware being used to track employees (Monty Solomon)
AT&T Helped U.S. Spy on Internet on a Vast Scale (Monty Solomon)
FCC, Canada agree on spectrum plan ahead of auction (Neal McLain)

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 03:53:54 +0000 (UTC) From: David Scheidt <dscheidt@panix.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Still no Verizon FiOS for Boston Message-ID: <mqmd4i$7id$1@reader1.panix.com> David Clayton <dc33box-usenet2@nospam.yahoo.com.au> wrote: :On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:15:03 -0400, Bill Horne wrote: :> Verizon tests ultra-fast Internet in Framingham, still no FiOS for Boston :> :> It's a speed junkie's dream: a 10-gigabit-per-second Internet connection. :> :> With a firehose of data like that, you could stream content to a 4K :> television. You could download 100 books in two seconds. If you're a :> business, you could get an edge over the competition by moving data :> faster. And some lucky duck in Framingham got to experience it. :......... :Given that any download rate is limited by the slowest link in the overall :connection chain, has anyone in the "Real World" actually achieved these :speeds from remote servers that may not even be on links that fast as well :as serving thousands of other users on the same link? :I'd like to see what the experience of people who have these mega-fast :links is otherwise these numbers really don't mean a lot. At a previous job, I had a gigabit connection to the internet at my desk. (So did everyone else. There were several 10 gig connections shared among a couple hundred people.) I was routinely able to use 80% or more of capacity doing things like downloading software installation dvd images. That was seven or eight years ago. I have no doubt that many other bandwidth hogging uses would occur to me these days. Also, remember, that most of these links will be shared by more than one user. -- sig 121
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:35:34 -0500 From: Doug McIntyre <merlyn@dork.geeks.org> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Still no Verizon FiOS for Boston Message-ID: <efydnQF_Yfj75VLInZ2dnUU7-d2dnZ2d@giganews.com> David Clayton <dc33box-usenet2@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au> writes: >On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:15:03 -0400, Bill Horne wrote: >> Verizon tests ultra-fast Internet in Framingham, still no FiOS for Boston >> >> It's a speed junkie's dream: a 10-gigabit-per-second Internet connection. >> >> With a firehose of data like that, you could stream content to a 4K >> television. You could download 100 books in two seconds. If you're a >> business, you could get an edge over the competition by moving data >> faster. And some lucky duck in Framingham got to experience it. >......... >Given that any download rate is limited by the slowest link in the overall >connection chain, has anyone in the "Real World" actually achieved these >speeds from remote servers that may not even be on links that fast as well >as serving thousands of other users on the same link? >I'd like to see what the experience of people who have these mega-fast >links is otherwise these numbers really don't mean a lot. Of course nothing singularly out on the Internet can fill a 10G pipe. (NB: I am in a good position for you, since I run a small regional service provider network, we have dual 10G Internet feeds currently. I'm also on the tech community of our regional Internet Exchange, where I can see the multitudes of users push data way beyond that). Nothing singularly out there can even fill a 1Gbps pipe. You definitely start running into server limits at that speed. Ie. a fast singular hard drive now-a-days can feed data back into a server at around 130MB/s, - just over 1Gbps. (athough enterprise Hybrid RAID and especially SSD drives can go much faster than that). I'd say that my typical download from a real fast server could maybe get upwards of 450-500Mbps peak. But those are pretty rare and infrequent. More typical "fast" servers could be in the 120Mbps range. Slower servers would push you down into the range of the average mid-to-higher-end cable users. Of course, I've been careful to say "singularly" frequently. Where we need the bandwidth, is where many many users download a lot of data. Say from Netflix or Youtube. When you have unknown thousands or 100's of thousands of users, all trying to get Netflix at once, that becomes quite the traffic fire hose of data. -- Doug McIntyre doug@themcintyres.us
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 07:35:33 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Corporate Spyware being used to track employees Message-ID: <AA1DFE38-E094-464D-9DB0-23AFFDE9EDBC@roscom.com> Data-Crunching Is Coming to Help Your Boss Manage Your Time By David Streitfeldaug Employers of all types are using a wide range of technological tools to monitor workers' efforts and motivate them. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/18/technology/data-crunching-is-coming-to-help-your-boss-manage-your-time.html
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 17:38:51 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: AT&T Helped U.S. Spy on Internet on a Vast Scale Message-ID: <789BC763-0FF6-4F0D-B5D4-4C99AB6E360A@roscom.com> Newly disclosed N.S.A. documents show that the agency gained access to billions of emails through a "highly collaborative" relationship with AT&T. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/us/politics/att-helped-nsa-spy-on-an-array-of-internet-traffic.html
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal McLain <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: FCC, Canada agree on spectrum plan ahead of auction Message-ID: <0b6e7814-bcf0-42fa-9a3a-87d06b7a56de@googlegroups.com> By Andrew Berg, CED, 8/17/2015 The FCC is continuing its efforts to harmonize TV and wireless spectrum bands with Canada as part of preparations for the upcoming incentive auctions. In a blog post on the Commission's website, Gary Epstein, Incentive Auction Task Force Chair, and Mindel DelaTorre, International Bureau Chief, wrote that the FCC and Industry Canada have finalized a Statement of Intent (SOI) that sets forth a framework and timeline for the repurposing TV spectrum for mobile broadband on both sides of the border. http://www.cedmagazine.com/news/2015/08/fcc-canada-agree-on-spectrum-plan-ahead-of-auction?et_cid=4747839&et_rid=652835436&location=top -or- http://tinyurl.com/ng2ummu Neal McLain ***** Moderator's Note ***** Were I in change of the RF spectrum in Canada, I would be demanding a minimum one-billion-dollar fee per auction, just to save the bidders from having to do it twice. Bill Horne Moderator

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