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The Telecom Digest for April 24, 2014
Volume 33 : Issue 63 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
California measure may reduce cost of phone calls from prisoners (Nigel Allen)
Wireless transit information kiosks [telecom\ (HAncock4)
Do rate centers cross state lines? (Andrew Kaser)

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 05:07:16 -0400 From: Nigel Allen <ndallen@interlog.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: California measure may reduce cost of phone calls from prisoners Message-ID: <20140423050716.85713oioglvmznb8@webmail.ca.inter.net> Collect telephone calls from prisoners in the United States can be extremely expensive, partly because of commissions paid by the long distance carrier to the prison administration. California already prohibits the practice of paying commissions to the prison for state prisons (Senate Bill 81 passed in 2007). Assembly Member Bill Quirk, a Democrat who represents the southern East Bay of the San Francisco Bay Area, has introduced Assembly Bill AB-1876 to extend the prohibition on commissions to juvenile detention facilities and to county-operated jails. The drop in prices that should result from the elimination of commissions should reduce the financial hardship on the families of prisoners. The following links provide some background on the measure and on Quirk. https://org2.salsalabs.com/o/5009/images/AB%201876%20Bill%20Summary%203-24.pdf http://asmdc.org/members/a20/
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:44:57 -0700 (PDT) From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Wireless transit information kiosks [telecom\ Message-ID: <e047007d-66f2-4ede-9b86-b600a8a76f9f@googlegroups.com> The New York MTA has announced a trial of real-time passenger information display screen kiosks that require no power or data wiring. This can save substantial money in installation, especially in places where running conduits is difficult. Power is provided by solar cells, and real-time information is by wireless. full press release and photo at: http://www.mta.info/news-metro-north-woodlawn-solar-kiosks-earth-day/2014/04/22/mta-testing-solar-powered-kiosks-real
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:30:06 -0700 From: Andrew Kaser <ak@europa.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Do rate centers cross state lines? Message-ID: <90BE794E-1FAE-4219-9F94-D123AAAAF8FE@europa.com> There were a number of these border crossing situations were one office would be reached through a different NPA-Prefix arrangement. McDermitt Nevada 775-732 and Quinn, Oregon, 541-522 (or from an earlier time 702-532, 503-522) is a good example. There were also numerous examples in the plains in ND, SD, NE, KS and their borders. There was even the international example through at least the 1980s between Point Roberts, Washington (206-945) and Ladner BC (604-943) with BC Tel as the LEC. That arrangement is long gone. I do not think regulators ever really worried about it. The volume through these rate centers was so small, that the cost of "fixing" the situation would far outweigh the loss revenues. Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 19:16:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal McLain <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Do rate centers cross state lines? Message-ID: <895ceaa2-f6ff-447b-9e3f-b97d2c627f82@googlegroups.com> Another case in point: Wendover Utah and West Wendover, Nevada. A few months ago Clint Gilliland, of Menlo Park, CA, posted the following message on the TCI listserv: > [West] Wendover, Nevada and Wendover, UT were adjacent cities > sharing the same SxS CO (in 1971). The Utah numbers were > 801-665-2NNN and the Nevada numbers were 702-668-2NNN. The 665 and > 668 homed on the same final switch train. It looks like it would > be possible to make out of state rate calls from Utah to a > Wendover, UT 665-2NNN number just by dialing 702-668-2NNN. And > vice-versa. This would save money when in-state rates were always > higher than out of state calls. > > I scanned the WHOLE Mountain Bell Wendover directory - a whole > four pages. The full range of numbers was -22NN, -23NN, -28NN and > -98NN. I believe the -98NN numbers could also be reached by -28NN. > > These must have been coin phones as the two gas stations > listed -98NN numbers. Gilliland did indeed scan the entire directory -- all four pages. A PDF is posted here: http://www.annsgarden.com/telecom/Directory-1971.pdf I note that there were no long distance dialing instructions for Nevada subscribers. I wonder if the procedure for calls within Utah also worked for calls from Nevada -- for example, a call from West Wendover Nevada to Ogden Utah?. And how did Nevada customers make calls within Nevada? As Gilliland noted, there are 665-98xx and 668-98xx numbers -- probably coin phones. On further investigation I note: - On the Utah side, these numbers are all gas stations. - On the Nevada side, another type of business is evident: Jim's Casino and the Hide Away Club. Gracious! Gambling and drinking in Nevada but not Utah! Well, some things never change. Neal McLain
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