31 Years of the Digest ... founded August 21, 1981

Add this Digest to your personal   or  

The Telecom Digest for June 18, 2013
Volume 32 : Issue 132 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: End of Cable Bundle Inevitable, With or Without Aereo: CEO (John Levine)
Google unveils Internet beaming balloons launched into stratosphere (Neal McLain)
Re: Credibility Crunch for Tech Companies Over Prism (Thad Floryan)
India to send world's last telegram (Neal McLain)

====== 31 years of TELECOM Digest -- Founded August 21, 1981 ======

Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Bill Horne and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using any name or email address included herein for any reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to that person, or email address owner.
Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without the explicit written consent of the owner of that address. Chain letters, viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome.

We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands against crime.  - Geoffrey Welsh

See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer, and other stuff of interest.

Date: 17 Jun 2013 01:45:49 -0000 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: End of Cable Bundle Inevitable, With or Without Aereo: CEO Message-ID: <20130617014549.83222.qmail@joyce.lan> >Well, if your business model is stealing (oops -- I mean "stealing") a >product from one party and selling it to another party, I guess that >argument make sense. After all, you don't have to comply with >programming agreements if you don't have any. We have laws that describe the deal that broadcasters make with the public, including a set of requirements in return for an extremely valuable local monopoly on a slice of the RF spectrum. Part of that deal has always been that anyone with an antenna gets to listen to or watch the broadcast. Aereo doesn't cut out the commercials, which have always been where the broadcasters' revenue comes from. Although I understand why the broadcasters would like the laws to be different, and to be able to extract even more money from the rest of us than their current franchise allows, wanting doesn't make it so.
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:16:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal McLain <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Google unveils Internet beaming balloons launched into stratosphere Message-ID: <5b4b5459-6e4f-418a-9e97-df6b325858b8@2g2000yqr.googlegroups.com> By Nick Perry and Martha Mendoza | Associated Press | Jun 15, 2013 | Wrinkled and skinny at first, the translucent, jellyfish- | shaped balloons that Google released this week from a frozen | field in the heart of New Zealand's South Island hardened into | shiny pumpkins as they rose into the blue winter skies above | Lake Tekapo, passing the first big test of a lofty goal to get | the entire planet online. | | It was the culmination of 18 months' work on what Google calls | Project Loon, in recognition of how wacky the idea may sound. | Developed in the secretive X lab that came up with a | driverless car and web-surfing eyeglasses, the flimsy helium- | filled inflatables beam the Internet down to earth as they | sail past on the wind. Continued: http://tinyurl.com/lpavlf5 Neal McLain
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:15:30 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Credibility Crunch for Tech Companies Over Prism Message-ID: <51BE7F52.5040502@thadlabs.com> On 6/12/2013 12:10 PM, PV wrote: > Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> writes: >> Everything is now being stored at the NSA's Utah facility which has >> a yottabyte capacity (1 trillion terabytes or 1 quadrillion gigabytes) > > Um, a yottabyte is a quadrillion terabytes - you're off by 3 orders > of magnitude. No, Paul, you seem to be using the British "-illions" nomenclature which differs from how "-illions" are expressed in the USA (and possibly in the rest of the world), thus my original statement was correct for a Usenet group hosted in the USA. Referring to an extract of the table I constructed after your comment: [...] Terabyte: 1,000,000,000,000 bytes [...] Yottabyte: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes [...] a yottabye is clearly 1 trillion terabytes. > I know people have thrown around the idea of the Utah facility being > yottabyte class storage, but that's about the technology they're using > (such as ZFS as you mentioned), not what they actually have. A yottabyte > is a couple hundred times larger than the entire estimated size of the > internet. There is no present technology that could pack that much data > into their datacenter and still access it. A solid block of micro-SD > cards with the cases removed wouldn't fit. * We don't know that since the total volume of the Utah facility is not public knowledge. When one examines this 50 Petabyte test bed at LLNL for the ZoL (ZFS on Linux project), it's fairly small, only 1.5 times larger than the refrigerator in my kitchen. http://zfsonlinux.org/llnl-zfs-lustre.html Deploying 10000s of those in a multi-level underground facility is not an issue; I've personally seen 1000s of cabinets 20 years ago at an Amdahl facility in Sunnyvale CA to physically test the max possible configuration (CPUs, selector channels, etc.) and it was all on one floor in a medium size building, so I can readily believe the NSA will have at least one yottabyte of storage in that Utah facility. CERN is going to be needing something similar as more new experiments proceed at the LHC gathering terabytes of information per second. Thad
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:07:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Neal McLain <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: India to send world's last telegram Message-ID: <2644e687-c0b0-41ea-a7be-7e9a9602fbdc@5g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> By Shivam Vij, Correspondent, Christian Science Monitor, June 14, 2013 fast. | New Delhi | At the Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL), India's state- | owned telecom company, a message emerges from a dot matrix | printer addressing a soldier's Army unit in Delhi. | "GRANDMOTHER SERIOUS. 15 DAYS LEAVE EXTENSION," it reads. It's | one of about 5,000 such missives still being sent every day by | telegram - a format favored for its "sense of urgency and | authenticity," explains a BSNL official. | | But the days of such communication are numbered: The world's | last telegram message will be sent somewhere in India on | July 14. | That missive will come 144 years after Samuel Morse sent the | first telegram in Washington, and seven years after Western | Union shuttered its services in the United States. In India, | telegraph services were introduced by William O'Shaughnessy, | a British doctor and inventor who used a different code for | the first time in 1850 to send a message. Continued: http://tinyurl.com/mlgu3kg Neal McLain
TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecom- munications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to Usenet, where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Bill Horne. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. The Telecom Digest is moderated by Bill Horne.
Contact information: Bill Horne
Telecom Digest
43 Deerfield Road
Sharon MA 02067-2301
bill at horne dot net
Subscribe: telecom-request@telecom-digest.org?body=subscribe telecom
Unsubscribe: telecom-request@telecom-digest.org?body=unsubscribe telecom
This Digest is the oldest continuing e-journal about telecomm-
unications on the Internet, having been founded in August, 1981 and
published continuously since then.  Our archives are available for
your review/research. We believe we are the oldest e-zine/mailing list
on the internet in any category!

URL information: http://telecom-digest.org

Copyright (C) 2013 TELECOM Digest. All rights reserved.
Our attorney is Bill Levant, of Blue Bell, PA.

Finally, the Digest is funded by gifts from generous readers such as yourself who provide funding in amounts deemed appropriate. Your help is important and appreciated. A suggested donation of fifty dollars per year per reader is considered appropriate. See our address above. Please make at least a single donation to cover the cost of processing your name to the mailing list. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization.

End of The Telecom Digest (4 messages)

Return to Archives ** Older Issues