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The Telecom Digest for August 8, 2012
Volume 31 : Issue 191 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: AT&T sets deadline for 2G sunset in 4 years (tlvp)
Re: AT&T sets deadline for 2G sunset in 4 years (Bill Horne)
Re: AT&T sets deadline for 2G sunset in 4 years (John Levine)
Robocall claims to be from MCI (unknown)

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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 03:17:52 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: AT&T sets deadline for 2G sunset in 4 years Message-ID: <157w78ewmxp86$.v01dqpy3u5c8.dlg@40tude.net> On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 13:19:57 -0400, Monty Solomon wrote: > AT&T sets deadline for 2G sunset in 4 years > > > http://www.komonews.com/news/tech/ATT-sets-deadline-for-2G-sunset-in-4-years-165022406.html > So: what service(s) exactly is at&t classifying as "2G" here? GSM voice? CSD data? GPRS data? EDGE data? UMTA data? HSDPA data? HSDPA+ data? other? "2G" is such a marketing term (like "3G" and "4G" as well) that it tells me nothing, and the komonews article isn't much more help, either :-) . TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 09:18:23 -0600 From: Bill Horne <bill@horne.VALID-IF-THIS-IS-ELIDED.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: AT&T sets deadline for 2G sunset in 4 years Message-ID: <502131BF.9080002@horne.net> On 8/5/2012 11:19 AM, Monty Solomon wrote: > NEW YORK (AP) - AT&T Inc. said Friday that the shutdown of its > second-generation, or "2G," wireless network will be complete by the > end of 2016, a process that will force customers with older phones to > upgrade to "3G" or "4G" handsets. More details, please: what is "2G", and how is it different than 3G or <n>G? Why would AT&T want to retire an architecture that represents billions in sunk costs which are probably not yet recovered? BTW, does this mean that AMPS is finally going away, that AT&T will phase out TDMA, or that some other branch of the "voice" cellular tree is to be pruned at the same time? Bill, who has a day off and access to a library and who has been rediscovering books and the postal service and quiet. P.S. We had to lasso an escaped llama. Everyone has been calling it the "Llama Drama". I can't make this stuff up. [ Moderator note: The one-l lama, He's a priest. The two-l llama, He's a beast. And I will bet A silk pajama There isn't any Three-l lllama.* -- Ogden Nash Thee was much Nashing of teeth, when Ogden appended the footnote: *The author's attention has been called to a type of conflagration known as a three-alarmer. Pooh.
Date: 8 Aug 2012 00:19:44 -0000 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: AT&T sets deadline for 2G sunset in 4 years Message-ID: <20120808001944.9884.qmail@joyce.lan> >More details, please: what is "2G", and how is it different than 3G or ><n>G? Why would AT&T want to retire an architecture that represents >billions in sunk costs which are probably not yet recovered? Because they want to make everyone get a new phone so they can try to upsell them to a more expensive plan than the grandfathered 2G plan they have now. >BTW, does this mean that AMPS is finally going away, that AT&T will >phase out TDMA They're long gone, shut down in 2008. R's, John
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:00:07 -0700 From: RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Robocall claims to be from MCI Message-ID: <1kogqwi.nrh61oo6fh64N%RonTheGuy@null.invalid> Over the last week or so, we've gotten several calls on our landline in which a recording tells us to call MCI immediately to verify information about our line or account or something. The number to call is 1-888-221-3190. Did a reverse lookup on the #; appears to be a telemarketer. Anyone know about this? How to get it to stop? Thx, Ron
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