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The Telecom Digest for May 22, 2012
Volume 31 : Issue 123 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: We Learn About The Telephone (tlvp)
Re: We Learn About The Telephone (Wes Leatherock)
Cellphone service in Boston subway by years end (Monty Solomon)
Re: 3rd party billing from AT&T (Fred Atkinson)
Re: Q.: Should jailbreaking mobile phones be legalized? (John)
Re: We Learn About The Telephone (T)
Conference Calling providers (David Lesher)
Re: 3rd party billing from AT&T (HAncock4)

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Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 22:36:41 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: We Learn About The Telephone Message-ID: <wbf8eagunt7a.1im7day8sqwq2.dlg@40tude.net> On Sun, 20 May 2012 13:19:07 -0700 (PDT), Joseph Singer wrote: > ... he dials the > standard Bell advertising number i.e. 555-2368! ... Hmm ... 2368 = BENT? = A FOU? = CENT? -- Anyone? TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 07:18:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: We Learn About The Telephone Message-ID: <1337609891.35428.YahooMailClassic@web111709.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/20/12, Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> wrote: > When the boy dials "Bobby Martin" you'll notice that he dials the > standard Bell advertising number i.e. 555-2368! At that time, the prefix 555- was reserved for non-functional uses such as advertising, use in films, plays or novels, or any other genre where a number was needed that would not never be an actual customer number. This usage went back to before toll dialing or area codes, and also could be used in its 2L-5N equivalent KL5-. Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com wesrock@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 02:45:27 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Cellphone service in Boston subway by years end Message-ID: <p062408b6cbdf94c175e4@[]> Full cellphone reception expected for T subway by year's end AT&T, T-Mobile have signed on By Matt Rocheleau Globe Correspondent / May 21, 2012 All underground portions of the MBTA subway system should be fully wired for cellphone reception by the end of the year, the company designing and installing the network predicted. But many T riders may have to wait longer before they can talk, text, and check e-mail throughout the system's 19 miles of tunnels: Only two major mobile carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile, have immediate plans to introduce or expand their subterranean coverage. Verizon offers service at four downtown stations and the tunnels between them but has not announced plans to expand its coverage. Other carriers have not worked out agreements with InSite Wireless, which signed a contract with the T in 2005 to oversee the project. The company charges carriers to connect to the underground network and gives a percentage of the revenue to the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. The T expects the deal will net the agency about $5.3 million over the course of its 15-year contract with InSite Wireless. That figure should rise as the areas where cell service is offered expand and as more carriers sign on, said MBTA spokesman Joe Pesaturo. ... http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/05/21/mbta_subway_will_be_fully_wired_for_cellular_service_by_end_of_year/
Date: 21 May 2012 04:28:51 GMT From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: 3rd party billing from AT&T Message-ID: <2029280979359266866.194572fatkinson-mishmash.com@news.newsguy.com> Javier <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > In the past months I started recieving 3rd party billing from never > demanded services from USBI. The actual company seemed to be > Onelink Communications Inc. It was $6 a month. [Moderator snip] Switch to VOIP. The VOIP companies don't allow third party billing. Fred
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 17:18:58 -0500 From: John <redacted@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Q.: Should jailbreaking mobile phones be legalized? Message-ID: <jpbqki$ujo$1@dont-email.me> On Sun, 20 May 2012 00:58:27 -0400 tlvp wrote: > The latest Sophos.com "Naked Security" blog post asks: > > : Should jailbreaking gaming consoles, mobile phones and tablets be > : legalized? > > Rationale for raising the question: > > | Yesterday US copyright regulators opened up the floodgates for a public | hearing (PDF at | http://www.copyright.gov/fedreg/2012/77fr15327.pdf > | ) > | of proposals to change copyright law, including authorizing the cracking > | of tablets, DVDs, gaming consoles and mobile phones. > > More at (sorry for the overly long URL): > > > http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/05/18/should-jailbreaking-gaming-consoles-mobile-phones-and-tablets-be-legalised/ > > -or- > > http://tinyurl.com/c2wfoyx > > > Cheers, -- tlvp Laws should have never protected anything that you have purchased for your own use. That is quite different than someone making a profit selling something that someone else has created as the inventor or writer. Leave it to lawyers to continuously create laws that churn confusion for their own monetary desires. Until lawyers are outlawed, there will always be outlaws. -- John When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie?
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 21:13:22 -0400 From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: We Learn About The Telephone Message-ID: <MPG.2a2360c1bb2fd0ce989d4f@news.eternal-september.org> In article <1337545147.90636.YahooMailClassic@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, joeofseattle@yahoo.com says... > > Thu, 17 May 2012 13:50:57 -0500 Dave Garland gave us this link: > > > 1965 Bell movie for elementary-school audiences: > > > > http://archive.org/details/WeLearnA1965 > > >> > > Notes: When telephones ring they're all the 302 ringer even when they > illustrate everything with a 500 set. > > When the boy dials "Bobby Martin" you'll notice that he dials the > standard Bell advertising number i.e. 555-2368! Fascinating view into mid 60's telephony. By that point they had Telstar up and running and most long distance was still over Microwave and Coax. DTMF would come about shortly thereafter and I believe 1965 was the year of the Morris ESS trial.
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:29:31 +0000 (UTC) From: David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Conference Calling providers Message-ID: <jpe52r$n89$1@reader1.panix.com> I'm seeking providers of conference calling services. Specifically: A) Managed groups of 10-75 people. Management means web page showing directory numbers of callers & way to have nametags on number. Page would show who was talking, etc. B) Web page control should have mute controls; callers are normally muted but can signal ("raise hand") to request chance to speak. C) NOT "800" service; just a US 10D number. If 800 is also available, that's OK but not required. There is no reason to pay for 800 inbound from phones with unmetered LD. Suggestions/experiences? -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT) From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: 3rd party billing from AT&T Message-ID: <1a192373-423a-49e6-b1ec-69a55711c482@5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> On May 19, 11:31 pm, Javier <nos...@nospam.com> wrote: > Is there a way to stop this nonsense? Can I control 3rd party billing > online or [by] writting by letter to somebody? Speaking to people in call > centers is most of the times unsucessful; the last time I needed to > speak to many of them until somebody [agreed] to reverse the charges. > Most of them told me that AT&T could not do nothing. Most business have a "In case of questions about your bill" mailing address printed somewhere on the invoice (it may be in fine print). Indeed, this may be mandatory. It may be helpful to send a Certified Letter with your complaint to that address. While it costs a few bucks to do so, the recipient must sign for Certified Mail and this is proof that you submitted a complaint. Businesses tend to be more responsive to such letters, and you may get a phone call from someone more empowered to assist you. > Also, is there a way to see my bills online? I have lost track of > this matter and possibly I need to reverse some more charges appart > from this month. Businesses these days are encouraging their customers to switch to email/online bills since it saves them printing and postage. It also gets the bill out to the customer faster which may result in a faster payment and thus better cash flow. Unfortunately, some businesses use your email to send you ads from time to time. IMHO, conventional hard copy bills are better. I've heard of people seeking to see older statements and they weren't available. Some businesses abuse the email ads, sending out stuff frequently. If you change your email address--as many people do often--you will lose your statements.
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