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The Telecom Digest for May 19, 2012
Volume 31 : Issue 120 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: BillPay Down, Online Banking Customers Crippled, Held Hostage (David Scheidt)
Re: BillPay Down, Online Banking Customers Crippled, Held Hostage (John Levine)
Re: Bill Pay down (Stan Schwartz)
Re: Bill Pay down (John Levine)
Smartphone security is heading for 'apocalypse' (HAncock4)
Re: BillPay Down, Online Banking Customers Crippled, Held Hostage (Wes Leatherock)
We Learn About The Telephone (Dave Garland)
Re: We Learn About The Telephone (HAncock4)
Yet another Imperious Federal Judge who doesn't like Asterisks (Anonymous)

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 15:35:25 +0000 (UTC) From: David Scheidt <dscheidt@panix.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: BillPay Down, Online Banking Customers Crippled, Held Hostage Message-ID: <jp35rt$1ru$1@reader1.panix.com> John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: :On the other hand, they, you know, mail a check. Surely it is not :beyond the ability of Americans in 2012 to blow the dust off the :checkbook and do it themselves. Mostly not, actually. Were I to direct my bank to send you money through the bill paying interface, they'd probably mail you a check, but for entities that get lots of payments, like your credit card companies and utilities, get paid with an electronic payment. That's cheaper for both parties, of course, but it's also faster. I can log in to the bank's site, make a few clicks, and get someone money tomorrow (sometimes even the same day.). If I write a check, I've got to pay for the check, a stamp, and remember to mail it a week before it's due. That's hard. -- sig 103
Date: 18 May 2012 17:12:25 -0000 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: BillPay Down, Online Banking Customers Crippled, Held Hostage Message-ID: <20120518171225.67128.qmail@joyce.lan> >:On the other hand, they, you know, mail a check. Surely it is not >:beyond the ability of Americans in 2012 to blow the dust off the >:checkbook and do it themselves. > >Mostly not, actually. Were I to direct my bank to send you money >through the bill paying interface, they'd probably mail you a check, >but for entities that get lots of payments, like your credit card >companies and utilities, get paid with an electronic payment. Of course. If your billpay is handled by CheckFree or whatever they're called these days, and you told them to pay me, they'd pay me by ACH, too, since I told them my bank details. Nonetheless, come the apocalypse and the billpay stops working permanently, you could mail me a check, and I would walk down to the bank and deposit it. R's, John
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 19:42:24 -0400 From: Stan Schwartz <stannc@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Bill Pay down Message-ID: <E7F0931C-606F-43D6-A8B7-F689C13A0AF4@yahoo.com> His blog mentions a number of banks who use Checkfree, including the one where I use bill pay. I haven't seen any outage and my payments have gone out correctly. -Stan
Date: 18 May 2012 17:14:54 -0000 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Bill Pay down Message-ID: <20120518171454.67827.qmail@joyce.lan> In article <E7F0931C-606F-43D6-A8B7-F689C13A0AF4@yahoo.com> you write: >His blog mentions a number of banks who use Checkfree, including the >one where I use bill pay. I haven't seen any outage and my payments >have gone out correctly. That suggests it's the other one, Metavante. They also do white label service for banks including TD and I think Wells Fargo. R's, John
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 14:10:31 -0700 (PDT) From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Smartphone security is heading for 'apocalypse' Message-ID: <6e054af1-2931-4689-b7fe-5058576c8c6d@p27g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> >From Computerworld 5/16/12 "Network World - The meteoric rise in the smartphone market is creating a dangerous vulnerability in smartphone security - one that may not be patched until the problem expands into what has been dubbed an "apocalypse." Dan Auerbach, a staff technologist at the Electronics Frontier Foundation, points to outdated encryption standards and the inherent vulnerabilities of the baseband processor found on modern smartphones as the makings for a security hole through which users can be exploited at large." For full article please see: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227222/Smartphone_security_is_heading_for_apocalypse
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 06:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: BillPay Down, Online Banking Customers Crippled, Held Hostage Message-ID: <1337262999.75259.YahooMailClassic@web111706.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 5/16/12, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote: > BillPay Down, Online Banking Customers Crippled, Held Hostage > by Matthew Chan Wednesday it was down at Bank of America but Chase Bank's service worked OK. Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com wesrock@aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:50:57 -0500 From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: We Learn About The Telephone Message-ID: <jp3has$gm0$1@dont-email.me> 1965 Bell movie for elementary-school audiences: http://archive.org/details/WeLearnA1965
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 07:27:38 -0700 (PDT) From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: We Learn About The Telephone Message-ID: <f6666478-14fc-4b8f-a6ee-de51ab5a9752@ec4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> On May 17, 2:50 pm, Dave Garland <dave.garl...@wizinfo.com> wrote: > 1965 Bell movie for elementary-school audiences: http://archive.org/details/WeLearnA1965 see also, from the AT&T archives: http://techchannel.att.com/play-video.cfm/2011/6/3/AT&T-Archives-Now-You-Can-Dial "The goal of this [1950s] film was to aid in reducing customer dialing irregularities by demonstrating the correct way to use the dial telephone. It documents the shift between operator-based connections (which were on the way out) and having to dial the phone and make the connection yourself. The dial telephone was new at this point, although the two-letter, 5-number system was still commonplace. This film even has to explain what a ringing and busy signal sound like!" The AT&T archives have numerous films, both contemporary and historical, on communications technology. see the bottom of the above web page.
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:01:50 -0400 From: Anonymous <anonymous@telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Yet another Imperious Federal Judge who doesn't like Asterisks Message-ID: <20120518122023002@telecom-digest.org> Surprisingly this got very little other media coverage --------- (by "Asterisk" I'm referring to those little marks that claim the Constitution, and especially the Bill of Rights, doesn't apply here or there) [courthouse news] Judge Blocks Controversial NDAA A federal judge granted a preliminary injunction late Wednesday to block provisions of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act that would allow the military to indefinitely detain anyone it accuses of knowingly or unknowingly supporting terrorism. Signed by President Barack Obama on New Year's Eve, the 565-page NDAA contains a short paragraph, in statute 1021, letting the military detain anyone it suspects "substantially supported" al-Qaida, the Taliban or "associated forces." The indefinite detention would supposedly last until "the end of hostilities." In a 68-page ruling blocking this statute, U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest agreed that the statute failed to "pass constitutional muster" because its broad language could be used to quash political dissent. ------- rest: http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/05/16/46550.htm Note: the Feds maintain this wasn't a brand new change, but merely an "affirmation" of the 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF), brought to us by, well, the Administration and Congress of 2001...
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