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The Telecom Digest for December 22, 2011
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:03:20 +1100 From: David Clayton <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com. Subject: Re: Voice mail auto delete Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:24:30 +0000, Ken Wheatley wrote: > On 2011-12-18 22:36:02 +0000, David Clayton said: .......... >> I wonder if any UK readers of the CDT have any more info on this? > > I used to work for Unisys some time ago, and played with their > large-scale messaging platforms. > > As others have said, these things are configurable, so an operator can > set them up how they like. In fact there may be more than one > configuration as there may be several voicemail products or classes of > service running on the platform. > > Normally messages become candidates for deletion when read. That may not > mean they're deleted at once, but may wait for a batch process to take > place. > > Unread messages are kept until read, deleted by the user or until a > certain time limit is reached. You obviously wouldn't keep them for > ever. > > Finally, there are message that have been listened to but then saved by > the user. These, too, have a shelf life. It would be very interesting to know what the system policies were for the VM system used in this infamous "hacking" incident now. I suspect that there are a lot of technical assumptions currently being made by non-technical people which are "muddying the waters" of the whole saga. -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:41:33 -0500 From: Telecom Digest Moderator <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org. Subject: Re: Fwd: net.ham-radio from 30 years ago Message-ID: <20111221094133.GA20223@telecom.csail.mit.edu> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:32:14AM -0000, John Levine wrote: > > > > http://www.olduse.net > > > > > >The old-style VT/ANSI terminal interface is a nice touch. I don't > >recognize the software it is emulating. It's not rn, for example. Is > >it readnews? It appears to closely resemble the Elm mail client. > > No, that's notesfiles, which looked nicer but had some internal limitations > compared to software that used native news formats. > > When I visited the site, the first thing it showed was a message that > I personally posted to net.unix-wizards 30 years ago. Yow. There's some kind of AI logic in there: I got the first issue of the Telecom Digest, from 1981. The "notesfiles" interface has a sidebar "feature" that give other posts to look at in other groups, but if you click on one, it opens that post in the sidebar, not the main window, with about twenty characters per line. I don't know what they called the program back then, but I know that I've used it before, because I remember that annoying habit it has of opening post in the sidebar. -- Bill Horne Moderator
Date: 21 Dec 2011 16:02:41 -0500 From: email@example.com (Scott Dorsey) To: firstname.lastname@example.org. Subject: Re: Bloomberg author says FCC needs to change its views Message-ID: <email@example.com> Telecom Digest Moderator <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > Julius Genachowski, the Federal Communications Commission > chairman, thinks the end is near. His evangelizing isn't > spiritual but digital: The economy of the future depends on > smartphones, tablet computers and other wireless devices, and > yet the U.S. faces a crippling spectrum shortage, he says. I keep hearing this. But the problem is that the spectrum is a finite resource. If there is a true shortage of spectrum, nothing spectrum management can do will remedy this. You want spectrum, there's plenty available in the >100 GHz that nobody is using. What? Don't like the propagation characteristics? Sorry about that. That's what is there. You can reallocate use, but you can't just wave your hands and create bandwidth out of nowhere, and that is what politicians seem to expect the FCC to do. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:21:47 +1100 From: David Clayton <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org. Subject: Re: Bloomberg author says FCC needs to change its views Message-ID: <email@example.com> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:02:41 -0500, Scott Dorsey wrote: > Telecom Digest Moderator <firstname.lastname@example.org> > wrote: >> >> Julius Genachowski, the Federal Communications Commission chairman, >> thinks the end is near. His evangelizing isn't spiritual but >> digital: The economy of the future depends on smartphones, tablet >> computers and other wireless devices, and yet the U.S. faces a >> crippling spectrum shortage, he says. > > I keep hearing this. > > But the problem is that the spectrum is a finite resource. ......... > You can reallocate use, but you can't just wave your hands and create > bandwidth out of nowhere, and that is what politicians seem to expect > the FCC to do. It is interesting to see these issues where a finite resource that is (usually) mismanaged by humans finally reaches the inevitable crunch point where we just can't keep going on with the proverbial "business as usual". This sort of thing is increasing all over the place with things like arable land, water resources and energy sources, but for some reason we believe that there is always some way to make the finite continue on. Do we have any examples of successful political fixes for issues like this that the pollies can use to counter those who keep pointing out that the definition of finite means that that there is a limit? Perhaps the spectrum "fix" will be along more traditional lines, take away the resources from those with lesser power or voice and hand it over to the big-money boys who almost always seem to get what they want? Just remember, if convenient spectrum becomes so critical to the national economy - or a matter of "national security" - then there won't be much that can stop such a valuable resource being allocated to those who are so important to both of these areas. -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have. ***** Moderator's Note ***** I recommend that all long-distance traffic be handled by telegrams once again. This will cut down tremendously on spectrum use: one voice channel can handle the equivalent of about 35 radiotelegraph signals. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:39:07 -0800 (PST) From: HAncock4 <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org. Subject: Re: Reframing the Debate Over Using Phones Behind the Wheel Message-ID: <email@example.com> On Dec 18, 7:00 pm, Monty Solomon <mo...@roscom.com> wrote: > For years, policy makers trying to curb distracted driving have > compared the problem to drunken driving. The analogy seemed fitting, > with drivers weaving down roads and rationalizing behavior that they > knew could be deadly. The Phila Inqr ran pro and con editorials on this issue: Con: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq_ed_board/Con-Feds-shouldnt-set-cellphone-rules.html Pro: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq_ed_board/Pro-No-phoning-while-driving-makes-sense.html?ref=more-like-this
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:34:17 -0800 (PST) From: HAncock4 <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com. Subject: Norman Krim, championed transistor, dies at 98 Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> from the NYT: Norman Krim, an electronics visionary who played a pivotal role in the industry's transition from the bulky electron vacuum tube, which once lined the innards of radios and televisions, to the tiny, far more powerful transistor, died on Dec. 14. He had a long career with the Raytheon Company and saw the device's potential. He persuaded his company to begin manufacturing it on a mass scale, particularly for use in miniaturized hearing aids that he had designed. for full article please see: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/business/norman-krim-who-championed-the-transistor-dies-at-98.html?_r=1&hpw
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:33:52 -0500 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> To: email@example.com. Subject: Western Electric is selling vacuum tubes Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> I went and put "Western Electric" into a search engine, and came up with this site: http://www.westernelectric.com/products.html ... where the Western Electric Export Company, apparently the new holder of the "Western Electric" name, is advertising vacuum tubes for sale. Bill, who could use a cold 807 right now. -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my address to write to me directly)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:25:03 -0500 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> To: email@example.com. Subject: LightSquared to FCC: it's our spectrum, interference is GPS industry's problem Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> by Matthew Lasar (Ars Technica) Embattled wholesale satellite broadband contender LightSquared has taken off the gloves. The company has asked the Federal Communications Commission for a "declaratory ruling" confirming its right to use spectrum licensed to the company by the FCC. Not only that, but LightSquared wants the Commission to confirm that GPS makers - who have been complaining of interference risks for months - lack any legal basis to ask for interference protections. http://tinyurl.com/7zcquqh -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my address to write to me directly)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:10:02 -0800 From: Thad Floryan <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org. Subject: Re: LightSquared to FCC: it's our spectrum, interference is GPS Message-ID: <4EF2917A.email@example.com> On 12/21/2011 3:25 PM, Bill Horne wrote: > by Matthew Lasar (Ars Technica) > > Embattled wholesale satellite broadband contender LightSquared has > taken off the gloves. The company has asked the Federal Communications > Commission for a "declaratory ruling" confirming its right to use > spectrum licensed to the company by the FCC. Not only that, but > LightSquared wants the Commission to confirm that GPS makers - who > have been complaining of interference risks for months - lack any > legal basis to ask for interference protections. > > > http://tinyurl.com/7zcquqh > Just wondering -- If Lightsquared should, by some idiocy, receive permission to continue their folly, would not the very 4G LTE phones they purport to serve have their own GPS receivers perturbed by Lightsquared's interfering signals? :-)
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