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The Telecom Digest for March 29, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 80 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Paul Baran, Internet Pioneer, Dies at 84(Monty Solomon)
A Girl's Nude Photo, and Altered Lives(Monty Solomon)
What They're Saying About Sexting(Monty Solomon)
AT&T Wants DSL Customers On U-Verse?(John C. Fowler)
Re: AT&T Wants DSL Customers On U-Verse?(Steven)
Re: AT&T Wants DSL Customers On U-Verse?(Sam Spade)
Mobile phones may rot your bones(Dave Garland)
Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part(Adam H. Kerman)
Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part(Gary)
Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part(John Levine)
Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part(Doug McIntyre)
Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part(Gordon Burditt)
Re: Annoyance Calls (again)(David Kaye)
Re: SLC-fed DSLAM's(Bruce)

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Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:06:26 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Paul Baran, Internet Pioneer, Dies at 84 Message-ID: <p0624082fc9b5b970e158@[10.0.1.4]> Paul Baran, Internet Pioneer, Dies at 84 By KATIE HAFNER March 27, 2011 Paul Baran, an engineer who helped create the technical underpinnings for the Arpanet, the government-sponsored precursor to today's Internet, died Saturday night at his home in Palo Alto, Calif. He was 84. The cause was complications from lung cancer, said his son, David. In the early 1960s, while working at the RAND Corporation in Santa Monica, Calif., Mr. Baran outlined the fundamentals for packaging data into discrete bundles, which he called "message blocks." The bundles are then sent on various paths around a network and reassembled at their destination. Such a plan is known as "packet switching." Mr. Baran's idea was to build a distributed communications network, less vulnerable to attack or disruption than conventional networks. In a series of technical papers published in the 1960s he suggested that networks be designed with redundant routes so that if a particular path failed or was destroyed, messages could still be delivered through another. Mr. Baran's invention was so far ahead of its time that in the mid-1960s, when he approached AT&T with the idea to build his proposed network, the company insisted it would not work and refused. ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/28/technology/28baran.html
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:37:28 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: A Girl's Nude Photo, and Altered Lives Message-ID: <p06240832c9b5c04a7c62@[10.0.1.4]> A Girl's Nude Photo, and Altered Lives By JAN HOFFMAN March 26, 2011 LACEY, Wash. - One day last winter Margarite posed naked before her bathroom mirror, held up her cellphone and took a picture. Then she sent the full-length frontal photo to Isaiah, her new boyfriend. Both were in eighth grade. They broke up soon after. A few weeks later, Isaiah forwarded the photo to another eighth-grade girl, once a friend of Margarite's. Around 11 o'clock at night, that girl slapped a text message on it. "Ho Alert!" she typed. "If you think this girl is a whore, then text this to all your friends." Then she clicked open the long list of contacts on her phone and pressed "send." In less than 24 hours, the effect was as if Margarite, 14, had sauntered naked down the hallways of the four middle schools in this racially and economically diverse suburb of the state capital, Olympia. Hundreds, possibly thousands, of students had received her photo and forwarded it. In short order, students would be handcuffed and humiliated, parents mortified and lessons learned at a harsh cost. Only then would the community try to turn the fiasco into an opportunity to educate. Around the country, law enforcement officials and educators are struggling with how to confront minors who "sext," an imprecise term that refers to sending sexual photos, videos or texts from one cellphone to another. But adults face a hard truth. For teenagers, who have ready access to technology and are growing up in a culture that celebrates body flaunting, sexting is laughably easy, unremarkable and even compelling: the primary reason teenagers sext is to look cool and sexy to someone they find attractive. Indeed, the photos can confer cachet. ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/27/us/27sexting.html
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:43:00 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: What They're Saying About Sexting Message-ID: <p06240836c9b5c239f067@[10.0.1.4]> What They're Saying About Sexting March 26, 2011 The New York Times interviewed teenagers individually and in two focus groups. The first, in Manhattan, was organized by the Anti-Defamation League, which offers cyberbullying prevention programs. The second, with students from Lower Merion, a Philadelphia suburb, was coordinated by Stephanie Newberg, a therapist who works with adolescents, and Paula Singer, a community organizer. The following quotes from the sessions and interviews have been edited and condensed. ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/27/us/27sextingqanda.html
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "John C. Fowler" <johnfpublic@yahoo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: AT&T Wants DSL Customers On U-Verse? Message-ID: <790703.63337.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> AT&T has put up its new high-speed Internet terms of service for 2011 at
http://www.att.net/tos2011. What's gotten most of the press lately are the new limits on monthly traffic (150G for DSL, 250G for U-verse). What caught my eye, though, was section 2.e., which is also new: ------------------- When AT&T is able to provision Service to you via our U-verse High Speed Internet at your location, we may, in our discretion, discontinue your DSL service and make available to you AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet at the then applicable rates, terms and conditions, which may differ from your previous DSL Service rates, terms and conditions (including bundle discounts). If you are on a term plan and your price will increase as a result of this conversion, you will not have to pay any applicable ETF if you elect to cancel service. Your new AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet will require different customer premises equipment ("CPE"). When you are selected for conversion, we will provide at least thirty days' notice of the discontinuation of your service via e-mail. Thirty days after such notice, we may at our sole discretion, either disconnect your service or temporarily suspend your service for up to fifteen days before we permanently discontinue service. ------------------- I have no idea if this is there for convenience "just in case" they decide they don't want to provide DSL anymore when U-verse is available, or if this is the beginning of a DSL phase-out. I do know that one of the reasons I keep DSL is that nice CO-powered wire that stays active even when a big storm takes away our electricity for a week, something only the phone company can provide. If they take that away, suddenly their competitors start to look a lot more enticing. John C. Fowler, johnfpublic@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:56:35 -0700 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: AT&T Wants DSL Customers On U-Verse? Message-ID: <imqb3m$jon$1@dont-email.me> On 3/28/11 6:45 AM, John C. Fowler wrote: > AT&T has put up its new high-speed Internet terms of service for 2011 > at
http://www.att.net/tos2011. What's gotten most of the press lately > are the new limits on monthly traffic (150G for DSL, 250G for > U-verse). What caught my eye, though, was section 2.e., which is also > new: > > ------------------- > When AT&T is able to provision Service to you via our U-verse > High Speed Internet at your location, we may, in our discretion, > discontinue your DSL service and make available to you AT&T > U-verse High Speed Internet at the then applicable rates, terms > and conditions, which may differ from your previous DSL Service > rates, terms and conditions (including bundle discounts). If you > are on a term plan and your price will increase as a result of > this conversion, you will not have to pay any applicable ETF if > you elect to cancel service. > > Your new AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet will require different > customer premises equipment ("CPE"). When you are selected for > conversion, we will provide at least thirty days' notice of the > discontinuation of your service via e-mail. Thirty days after > such notice, we may at our sole discretion, either disconnect > your service or temporarily suspend your service for up to > fifteen days before we permanently discontinue service. > ------------------- > > I have no idea if this is there for convenience "just in case" they > decide they don't want to provide DSL anymore when U-verse is > available, or if this is the beginning of a DSL phase-out. I do know > that one of the reasons I keep DSL is that nice CO-powered wire that > stays active even when a big storm takes away our electricity for a > week, something only the phone company can provide. If they take that > away, suddenly their competitors start to look a lot more enticing. > > John C. Fowler, johnfpublic@yahoo.com > I did not see the part about forcing U-verse, but the area i'm located has U-verse all around, but our cable is so old that it can't handle it; they tried. If and when they do switch and if the price it a lot more then I'll just start using my Sprint Overdrive which in my area just went 4G. On a subject about the cable, when it rains things go out, they have tried to fix it, but local managers have said the cable is in very bad shape. I complained to Corporate; after being switched all over the company to wrong people for over an hour, when you tell them you will take your business elsewhere, their answer we are sorry to see you go; as of 2 weeks nothing has been done. The California PUC is useless. -- The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2011 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Co.
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:28:07 -0700 From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: AT&T Wants DSL Customers On U-Verse? Message-ID: <mu2dnQCEwqDafA3QnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews.com> John C. Fowler wrote: > ------------------- > > I have no idea if this is there for convenience "just in case" they > decide they don't want to provide DSL anymore when U-verse is > available, or if this is the beginning of a DSL phase-out. I do know > that one of the reasons I keep DSL is that nice CO-powered wire that > stays active even when a big storm takes away our electricity for a > week, something only the phone company can provide. If they take that > away, suddenly their competitors start to look a lot more enticing. > > John C. Fowler, johnfpublic@yahoo.com > What powers your DSL modem when the power at your premises is out for a week?

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:00:56 -0500 From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Mobile phones may rot your bones Message-ID: <imq7rb$bn1$1@dont-email.me> Mobile phones may rot your bones Written by Paul Hales on 28 March, 2011 Researchers at the the National University of Cuyo, in Mendoza, Argentina, looked at that strange breed - men who wear mobile phones on their hip. They discovered evidence to suggest that the proximity of the mobile phone caused a reduction in bone mineral content (BMC) and bone mineral density (BMD) in the men who wore the phones over a 12-month period, compared to a control group that didn't. According to an abstract from the study to be published in the Journal of Craniofacial Surgery, wearers of a mobile phone had "significantly lower right BMD at the trochanter and significantly lower right BMC at both trochanter and total hip". None of these differences were found in non users, the study notes...
http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/3/28/mobile-phones-rot-your-bones/
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:55:17 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part Message-ID: <imotal$jc4$1@news.albasani.net> Gary <bogus-email@hotmail.com> wrote: >"David Clayton" wrote: >>I'm sorry, but this has to be the biggest crock that I've seen in a while. >>The "swipe" function is merely a prox chip that currently is physically >>located in a flat rectangular piece of plastic, there is nothing special >>about a phone to contain the same (tiny) prox chip. >You have to understand that the article was written about the United States. >In the USA, the majority of our credit card transactions are carried out >using the mag stripe on the back of the card. Yes, we still use 1960's >technology for the data entry portion of credit card transaction - thus the >term "swipe." >Many other countries use RF based technology for their cards - sometimes a >"prox chip," as you call it. We just have very little of it in the USA. >There are lots of reasons for this, which we'll skip for now. [Moderator snip] What's more secure about proximity chips in phone versus cards, and how could they be more secure than a magnetic stripe? I cannot read a magnetic stripe unless I have physical possession; not true with proximity chips.

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:39:47 -0400 From: "Gary" <bogus-email@hotmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part Message-ID: <imqa45$5oj$1@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" wrote in message news:imotal$jc4$1@news.albasani.net... > > What's more secure about proximity chips in phone versus cards, and how > could they be more secure than a magnetic stripe? > > I cannot read a magnetic stripe unless I have physical possession; > not true with proximity chips. There is no encryption and no security with mag stripes. A thief can copy a mag stripe onto another card and use it. Thieves copy stripes by "double swiping" them through either an extra card reader or a modified card reader. Some thieves have been known to electronically steal credit card data en-bulk (sometimes from retailers with bad network security) and use it to write to their own blank cards. This is why blank credit cards are shipped with security that is similar to moving cash. Electronic devices (smart card, proximity cards, ...), use encrypted communication. Even if the card to register transaction is sniffed, it is very difficult to create a copy of the card. Of course, the back end systems can detect fraud by monitoring for unusual transactions and users can detect fraud by monitoring their account. This is true regardless of the type of card used. Since mag stripe cards aren't very hard to copy, this is a common way for fraud to occur. RF cards reduce this fraud vector by a significant amount. I wish we had more secure transactions than the mag swipe here in the USA. I've had my card "lifted" at least once due to someone "double swiping" the card. I think it happened at the a parking lot at the Bayone, NJ Cruise Terminal (a.k.a. "Port Liberty.") At this lot, you pre-pay for parking as you know how long you'll be there (the length of the cruise). The attendant swiped my card. When I got back a week later, I checked my account and saw a few small transactions in Brooklyn on a day I was floating around the Atlantic Ocean. I canceled my card immediately, which caused lots of other hassles with my auto payments and such. While I can't be certain the parking guy had a modified card reader, the circumstantial evidence is very suspicious given the timing and nature of the fraud. He (and maybe his partners) knew that the people paying would be gone for a week. I think the small transactions were tests to see if I'd notice when I got back. If I didn't, I think I'd have been hit with bigger fraud in a month or two. And yes, I did report this to the police in case a larger criminal ring was behind it. If I'd been able to use an RF card, it would have been much harder for the thieves to lift it. Next time, I'll use cash. -Gary

Date: 28 Mar 2011 19:23:25 -0000 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part Message-ID: <20110328192325.70834.qmail@joyce.lan> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:55:17 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >What's more secure about proximity chips in phone versus cards, and how >could they be more secure than a magnetic stripe? Prox chips are much harder to clone. If you can read the stripe on someone's card, you know everything you need to know to make a copy of the card. This is why there are ATM skimmers. R's, John

Date: 28 Mar 2011 19:32:00 GMT From: Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part Message-ID: <4d90e230$0$87581$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net> >What's more secure about proximity chips in phone versus cards, and how >could they be more secure than a magnetic stripe? >I cannot read a magnetic stripe unless I have physical possession; >not true with proximity chips. The proximity chips in credit/cash cards in Europe have a PIN associated with them that need to be entered at the same time. Presumably, the smartphone system would have some sort of control over pin input interface with some level of control of what data can leave the NFR chip rather than just having a contactless chip embedded in the phone case somewhere.

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:55:56 -0500 From: gordonb.vukrg@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Swiping Is the Easy Part Message-ID: <Mo-dnegMb_ORvQzQnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@posted.internetamerica> >>>The "swipe" function is merely a prox chip that currently is physically >>>located in a flat rectangular piece of plastic, there is nothing special >>>about a phone to contain the same (tiny) prox chip. The "swipe" function comes when your chip, rather than the chip of the guy in front of you or behind you, gets charged for someone else's purchases. This can be either accidental or intentional. I've observed it happening with Mobil SpeedPass (one guy handed his SpeedPass over the other register, which probably had something to do with it, although how they each managed to get the other's charge on their SpeedPass rather than both on one is not obvious). It was discovered because the guy driving a semi bought much more gasoline than the guy with the car could possibly fit in his tank, and the guy with the car looked at his receipt. > What's more secure about proximity chips in phone versus cards, and how > could they be more secure than a magnetic stripe? In proposed or actual systems to be installed in phones in the USA, what is the connection of the phone and the prox chip (beyond two devices super-glued together)? Do they share anything except perhaps battery power? Is the phone (data or voice) used for any purpose during the transaction? Does the prox chip work on a phone with no service (due to not subscribing or failure to pay the bill) or with no service (due to being far away from a cell tower) or with a dead or removed battery? Does the prox chip work on a GSM phone with no SIM card? Is there a way to lock the prox chip? Can a virus on the phone charge something? Could it leak information (by "phoning home") sufficient to charge something? I carry a number of cards in my wallet and I carefully choose which card to use for a particular transaction (considering, among other things, which cards the merchant accepts, the balances if any on the cards, and what I'm buying and rewards for that type of purchase). How do I do that (select which card to use) with a phone-prox chip? > I cannot read a magnetic stripe unless I have physical possession; > not true with proximity chips. This just screams "DESIGN ERROR"!

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:09:31 GMT From: sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com (David Kaye) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Annoyance Calls (again) Message-ID: <imqmdb$qvr$1@dont-email.me> Fred Atkinson <fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com> wrote: >Well, > > I got another one. This time the number was: (956) 440-1397. > I just let phone calls with strange area codes roll over to voicemail. When I've answered them or called them back they've always been telemarketers.

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:01:05 -0400 From: Bruce <news2011@ewr.bac.us.example.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: SLC-fed DSLAM's Message-ID: <bji1p61iptlvkb1kt1hqi53a1opkh9v66c@4ax.bac.us> On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:47:18 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote: >I'm still searching for specific examples of DSLAM's in non-CO >locations. Specifically, a DSLAM in/at a SLC cabinet or other >digital remote. > >I am asking because Verizontal is insisting that such isn't >possible, oh no; or at least they don't know how to do it >because they've never seen one like that.... I had DSL fed off a Verizon SLC here in New Jersey. At least I was told so after the fact by the tech who installed my FiOS service. I'm circa five miles from the CO, so I don't know how I could have gotten DSL otherwise. Actually, it was kind of silly. For a long time, I couldn't get DSL (and had cable internet for some time). Then, Verizon said I could get DSL (which was considerably cheaper than cable), and it got installed the same day they were hanging fiber in the neighborhood for FiOS. Dunno why Verizon would have provisioned DSL at the SLC when it was rolling out FiOS in a few months. Bruce
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