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The Telecom Digest for March 27, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 78 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Regarding that proposed ATT takeover of TM(Bob Goudreau)
Re: SLC-fed DSLAM's(Doug McIntyre)
Re: bye, bye T-Mobile(T)
Re: Information on small scale optical systems(T)
Apple Wins Skirmish in Nokia Patent War(Monty Solomon)
John's Phone | The World's Simplest Cell Phone(David Clayton)

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Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 04:15:14 -0400 From: "Bob Goudreau" <BobGoudreau@nc.rr.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Regarding that proposed ATT takeover of TM Message-ID: <9F59B2AF5B6740BD859F26DFDE2BE583@meng.lab.emc.com> Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> > I talked to Sprint Support and was told that they have roaming agreements > with several carriers, but would not be specific, but he did say that they > don't have a lot of towers in the area I have been in, but Verizon does, > yet my data on my Sprint Overdrive works just fine and from what I can > tell my going to my Overdrive page, it is on the Sprint 3G Network and a > couple of times I hit 4g, I think it was Clear. You're certainly not going to be able to roam* a Sprint 4G device on Verizon's network, as the former uses WiMax and the latter is just starting to roll out LTE. Clearwire, which is partially owned by Sprint, runs a WiMax network, which is resold by Sprint as its own WiMax service. * You'll still be able to roam using its CDMA and 1xRTT capabilities, of course, just not its 4G capabilities. Bob Goudreau Cary, NC

Date: 26 Mar 2011 05:12:18 GMT From: Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: SLC-fed DSLAM's Message-ID: <4d8d75b2$0$87580$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net> Keywords: SLC DLC DSLAM David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> writes: >I'm still searching for specific examples of DSLAM's in non-CO >locations. Specifically, a DSLAM in/at a SLC cabinet or other >digital remote. >I am asking because Verizontal is insisting that such isn't >possible, oh no; or at least they don't know how to do it >because they've never seen one like that.... >I have multiple anecdotes of such, but such is no help. I need >specific examples of locations with customers known to have >DSL service where they are fed from a SLC. It's far better if >Verizontal territory, but it may help even if it is BellSouth or >such. Qwest deploys remote DSLAMs all the time in their territories. I'd be surprised if not all LECs do. My house is served by a remote DSLAM, offering me the max 1.5Mbps service. Otherwise, I'm at a distance that would only get 256k from a DSLAM located in the CO. Typically, they started out being fed by bonded T1s, much the same as the SLCs. Since you don't get that much bandwidth, even with 8 bonded T1s (typically the max for the remote DSLAM market), Qwest, and the market went with the Fiber-To-The-Node model. I suppose one way I'd go about pressing the point is if this isn't standard, why would standard Telco equipment makers like Adtran and Lucent offer Remote node DSLAMs and/or the FTTN DSLAMs? Like the Adtran TotalAccess1248 or the Lucent Stinger series. That are specificly marketed for remote DSLAM and FTTN applications?

Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:58:39 -0400 From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: bye, bye T-Mobile Message-ID: <MPG.27f7e54d7352be1989d25@news.eternal-september.org> In article <imaohk$ebs$1@news.albasani.net>, ahk@chinet.com says... > > danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote: > > >[press release] > > >
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110320005040/en/ATT-Acquire-T-Mobile-USA-Deutsche-Telekom > > >Dallas and Bonn, Germany (Business Wire)- AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) and > >Deutsche Telekom AG (FWB: DTE) today announced that they have entered > >into a definitive agreement under which AT&T will acquire T-Mobile USA > >from Deutsche Telekom in a cash-and-stock transaction currently valued > >at approximately $39 billion. The agreement has been approved by the > >Boards of Directors of both companies. > > >[snip] > > ------ > >disclosure: I'm both a subscriber and shareholder > >in T-Mobile (for a long, long, time). > > >I'm not happy. > > It's not a Great Day at T-Mobile, sigh. I am a subscriber too. > > Does anyone know the company's history? Didn't know it was a Deutsche Telekom > subsidiary. It started out as OmniPoint. Great service, great prices at the time and the first GSM operator in the United States. OmniPoint became VoiceStream. Not so great really but still ok. And then Deutsche Telecom bought VoiceStream and T-Mobile was born.
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:53:27 -0400 From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Information on small scale optical systems Message-ID: <MPG.27f7e41254538668989d23@news.eternal-september.org> In article <06754748C6752BD66B1F5E3E42066EBA8@sonic.net>, martyb@sonic.net says... > > I work in a shipyard that is 19th century as far as telecom > goes. [Moderator snip] There have been discussions with our carrier > about bringing fiber in, so that part is probably doable. I'd like > to get some pointers on what kind of equipment is available that > might meet our needs, as well as an idea of the cost. I'm thinking > that an OC-12 might be enough, but would consider an OC-48 if the > equipment wasn't much more expensive. > > Anyone have any suggestions? I imagine you could run the fiber right up the dock side and present a coaxial and copper link from there for the ships. Take their pick so to speak and not that expensive to setup.

Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:08:30 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Apple Wins Skirmish in Nokia Patent War Message-ID: <p06240803c9b3f700dd14@[]> Apple Wins Skirmish in Nokia Patent War By REUTERS March 25, 2011 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Apple Inc won a round in its patent fight with Nokia on Friday as a U.S. trade panel judge ruled that the U.S. company did not violate any of five Nokia patents. In its complaint, Nokia asked the trade panel to bar the importation of Apple devices that infringe Nokia patents, citing in particular the iPhone 3GS mobile phone and iPod Nano portable music player. Judge James Gildea, of the International Trade Commission, which hears many patent cases, said in his initial determination that Apple did not violate the Nokia patents. The complaint had been filed in December 2009. The next step will be for the entire commission to either uphold or throw out Gildea's decision. The target date for that decision is August 1, 2011. In a separate decision on Friday, the ITC said it would review a judge's ruling that Research in Motion Ltd and Apple Inc did not infringe on Eastman Kodak Co patented technology. That final decision is expected in May. Nokia said on Friday it was taking a wait-and-see attitude toward the ITC ruling in its fight with Apple. ...
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:56:15 +1100 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: John's Phone | The World's Simplest Cell Phone Message-ID: <pan.2011.> Yep, it has no display and the Address Book is a pad and paper!
http://www.johnsphones.com/ Now that's retro! -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
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