The Telecom Digest for January 17, 2011
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:08:05 -0800 (PST)
From: "Mark J. Cuccia" <markjcuccia@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Pennsylvania 814/582 Forthcoming Area Code Relief
Message-ID: <312688.27609.qm@web31101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Pennsylvania 814/582 Forthcoming Area Code Relief
The 814 area code in Pennsylvania covers the northwestern corner of
Pennsylvania including the Erie PA Metro area (legacy VeriZon/GTE),
and makes a "quarter turn" around the outside of the southwestern
corner of Pennsylvania (the Pittsburgh PA Metro area which is 412 and
724, and overlaid with 878 since 2001 even though there aren't yet any
POTS 878-NXX codes assigned), meeting the PA/MD state-line east of the
southwest corner/Pittsburgh metro area.
814 has covered the same geographic area since the US/Canada area code
format was finalized in October 1947 - it has never been split before.
There MIGHT have been "slight" boundary changes in years past, but
I'm not aware of, i.e, it's always "possible" that a single ratecenter
(or maybe two or three) have changed to/from 814 from/to an adjacent
area code, but for the most part the boundaries of 814 are basically
the same as they were since 1947.
The eastern/southern parts of 814 (Altoona PA and State College PA)
are VeriZon/Bell-of-Pennsylvania, and the northwestern parts (Erie PA)
are mostly VeriZon/GTE, with some VeriZon/Bell-of-Pennsylvania. But
both sides also contain other independent telcos, including:
- Frontier
- CenturyLink-old-Embarq/Sprint/United
- Windstream-old-Alltel/Mid-Continent Tel
- other one-time GTE and GTE-once-Contel areas which are all now part
of VeriZon (Pennsylvania is one state where VeriZon has NOT sold-off
any legacy GTE and Contel, retaining it all under the VeriZon name)
- Armstrong Tel
- etc.
In 2009, NeuStar-NANPA, on behalf of the telco industry, submitted a
petition to the PA-PUC for an additional area code for "relief" of
the 814 area code region. Relief planning for 814 had actually begun
by NANPA and the telco industry going back to 2002. The industry's
first-choice was for an overlay.
HOWEVER, on Thursday 16-December-2010, the PA-PUC announced that they
had decided 5-0 (unanimously) for a SPLIT of 814, where the Erie PA
(northwestern side) would CHANGE-and-SPLIT to the "new" (TBD) area
code, while the eastern/southern parts of 814 (State College PA and
Altoona PA) would retain the 814 area code. A Press Release was issued
by the PA=PUC:
"PUC Approves Splitting 814 Area Code to Avoid Running Out of Phone Numbers"
http://www.puc.state.pa.us/General/press_releases/Press_Releases.aspx?ShowPR=2675
On Tuesday 21-December-2010, the PA-PUC announced the NANPA-assigned
new area code as 582 (which for some years has been the "guessed-at"
code). A Press Release was issued by the PUC:
"582 Named as New Area Code for Portions of 814 Changing in 2012"
http://www.puc.state.pa.us/General/press_releases/Press_Releases.aspx?ShowUtil=TP
The PUC would like to see 582 split from 814 permissive on 01-Feb-2012
(a little over a year from now), with a six-month permissive dialing
period until mandatory dialing of 582 would kick in for calls to the
northern and western parts (Erie PA/etc) of the previously existing
814 area code region. (Some news/media/press reports mentioned that
the 582 code might become mandatory a year later on 01-Feb-2013).
Almost immediately, the business/government/etc. customers in the
Erie PA metro area (and residential customers too) began to raise an
uproar, stating that since the Erie PA area is more populated than the
rest of the existing 814 region, that "they" (Erie PA and the northern
and western regions of existing 814) should retain the 814 area code.
However, MOST of those complaining are NOT seeking to "flip" the sides
of the split (i.e., where Erie would retain 814, with the "other" side
of Altoona and State College splitting-off-and-changing to the new 582
area code). Instead, those businesses/etc. in the Erie/etc. area who
are upset by the PA=PUC's December 2010 split decision, would rather
that the PA-PUC put in an OVERLAY of 582 over (all of) 814, even
though this does mean mandatory ten-digit dialing throughout the
entire 814/582 region.
The PA-PUC tried to justify their split decision by stating that the
public hearings in early 2010 held in the Erie PA area were sparsely
attended. However, the originally scheduled hearings in Erie were to
have been in February 2010, and had to be postponed to April 2010 due
to extreme weather conditions in February.
During the second half of December 2010, several grass-roots petitions
to the PA-PUC were drafted by the Erie business and government
"community", most of them to have the PUC change the pending split to
an OVERLAY, although a few requested that the pending split be
"flipped around".
In early January 2011, various news/press/media stories on radio/TV/
newspaper websites indicated that the PA-PUC had received at least 10
petitions requesting that the pending split be changed (in some way).
VeriZon and AT&T are both leading an industry effort (probably with
support from the various above mentioned independent landline telcos,
larger CLECs, and probably also Sprint and T-Mobile) to have the
pending split changed to an OVERLAY.
Yesterday, Thursday 13-January-2011, the PA-PUC acknowledged that
there have been approximately 40 petitions requesting a change in the
pending split, and the PUC is going to re-consider, after further
public hearings and "technical conferences". A PUC Press Release has
been issued: "PUC Agrees to Further Review Decision in 814 Area Code
Relief Case, Plans Additional Public Hearings, Technical Conferences"
http://www.puc.state.pa.us/General/press_releases/Press_Releases.aspx?ShowPR=2696
Also see another PUC document issued for more info:
http://www.puc.state.pa.us/pcdocs/1118403.pdf
Note that the other three original (1947) area codes have been split
since 1994/95 and through 1998:
- 215 had 610 split off in 1994/95.
- 412 had 724 split off in 1998. (it WAS to have been a 1997 overlay)
- 717 had 570 split off in 1998/99.
Since then, ALL area code relief in Pennsylvania has been overlay:
- 215 overlaid with 267, and 610 overlaid with 484, both in 1999.
- Both 215/267 and 610/484 were to have been overlaid again in early
2001, 215/267 with 445 and 610/484 with 835, but these further
overlays were postponed until further notice.
- 412 and 724 were overlaid with 878 in Summer 2001, but so far, even
though ten-digit dialing in mandatory throughout 412 and 724, there
are still no 878-NXX "POTS" c.o.codes yet (but it's POSSIBLE that the
first 878-NXX code might be assigned sometime in 2011 or 2012).
- and this past Summer 2010, the PA-PUC approved a 570/272 overlay,
but the implementation date is still TBD.
- 717 is also undergoing relief planning, and it is LIKELY that it
will be overlaid, but the PA-PUC hasn't approved anything yet. The
"guessed at" relief code is 223.
Also, most of the states which border Pennsylvania have overlays, and
with one exception (New York State), those bordering "overlay states"
have an actual overlay bordering Pennsylvania:
- Ohio has overlays, and 330/234 borders Pennsylvania.
- ALL of West Virginia is 304 overlaid with 681, borders Pennsylvania.
- BOTH Maryland overlay regions:
301/240/(future 227) and 410/443/(future 667) border Pennsylvania.
- New Jersey has overlays, and 973/872 borders Pennsylvania.
New York State borders Pennsylvania, but its only current overlay
region, for New York City -- 212/646, 718/347/929, /917 -- is NOT
adjacent to Pennsylvania.
Delaware also borders Pennsylvania, but it is still just a single area
code, 302. However, it is likely that whenever DE/302 does need relief
it will be an overlay.
Other recent new area code overlays were originally ordered as splits
by their respective state regulatory bodies, even though the telco
industry initially requested an overlay. Either the telco industry or
the general public eventually convinced the regulatory body to change
to the telco industry's originally preferred overlay:
West Virginia 304/681 was ordered as a split in early 1998, but after
grass-roots efforts, the WV-PSC then changed it to an overlay, which
took effect in 2009.
Utah (Salt Lake City Metro) 801/385 was ordered as a split in 2000,
to become effective in 2000/01, postponed several times with new
announced implementation dates, postponed "indefinitely" in 2004.
In 2007, the telco industry requested that the UT-PSC change it to an
overlay, which was approved, effective in 2009.
California also had two overlays recently, but both were originally
ordered by the CA-PUC as splits.
In 1999, the CA-PUC ordered a split of 818 in the area north of the
Hollywood Hills in Los Angeles, including the San Fernando Valley
area. The southwestern part of 818 would have split-and-changed to the
new 747 area code, with 818 retained by everything else. No formal
implementation dates were announced at the time in 1999. By 2008, the
telco industry re-petitioned the CA-PUC, to approve of firm/official
implementation dates, and also to change the pending split to an
overlay. The overlay took effect in 2009.
Also in 1999, the CA-PUC ordered a split of 760 in eastern/southern
California, where the immediate suburbs of San Diego Metro would split
off and change to the new 442 area code during 2000, and 760 would be
retained by the remainder such as Palm Springs CA (legacy GTE/CW&T)
and Victorville CA (legacy Contel). Most of the area retaining 760
would have been VeriZon (both GTE and GTE-once-Contel) with some
Pacific*Bell and some other independent telcos, while the 442 area
code would have been all Pacific*Bell for landline service. This split
was put on hold before being implemented in 2000. In 2007, the telco
industry re-petitioned the CA-PUC to approve an OVERLAY of 760 with
442, but in Spring 2008, the PUC ordered a split (roughly along the
same boundary as the previously ordered 2000 split), to be effective
in Fall 2008 permissive, Spring 2009 mandatory. Businesses and
local/state/federal government agencies (including the US Navy) in
the San Diego metro area, as well as individuals residential customers
started a grass-roots petition effort to have the split changed to an
overlay, which was eventually approved by the PUC in October 2008.
The overlay took effect a year later in October 2009.
The only other pending split has been the Kentucky 270/364 split,
approved initially by the KY-PSC in late Spring 2007. However, the
implementation dates were subsequently delayed numerous times by the
KY-PSC every time NANPA came out with new/revised area code "exhaust"
projections. Eventually, the KY-PSC ordered the split to be on hold
"indefinitely", but more recently the PSC ordered the split completely
canceled. When 270 does eventually need relief as determined by a
future NANPA exhaust projection, the telco industry is to start 270
area code relief planning over again, from "scratch", which SEEMS to
indicate that the KY-PSC MIGHT at that time be more "overlay friendly".
The last actual NPA split in Canada was the Alberta 403/780 split in
early 1999, where 403 was retained by the southern "third" of the
Province (Calgary/etc), and 780 was the new "split" code for the
central "third" (Edmonton/etc., Edmonton being the Province Capital)
and northern "third". In 2008, the entire Province of Alberta, both
403 and 780, was overlaid with the new 587 area code.
The last actual NPA split in the US was the New Mexico split in 2007/08.
505 was retained by the northwestern and central (Albuquerque/etc)
parts of the state, with 575 splitting off for the rest of the state.
The NM-PRC thought that the public would have preferred a split, but
after the split was in progress during permissive, and since it has
gone "mandatory", there has been a "buyers' remorse" -- the NM-PRC
and the NM business/etc. community now realizes that the overlay would
have been much better.
EVERYTHING ELSE in recent years has been OVERLAYS in both the US and
Canada. And Puerto Rico (which is a US possession) implemented the
787/939 overlay in 2001. The Dominican Republic in the (non-US)
NANP-Caribbean has implemented TWO overlays -- 809/829 in 2005, and
then 809/829/849 in 2009.
Jamaica is the next (non-US) NANP-Caribbean location which might soon
need relief in the next couple of years. 876 is filling up, and a new
code has been reserved. The "guess" is for 658. There has been NO
decision yet by the Jamaican OUR (Office of Utility Regulation) as to
whether it will be an 876/658 split or overlay, but I tend to think
that the Jamaican OUR will likely approve an overlay.
With all of this recent overlay activity, especially splits which were
originally planned for which were changed to overlays, HOPEFULLY the
PA-PUC will reconsider the pending 814/582 split and instead order
a full services 814/582 overlay, although there might even be further
number/code conservation measures put into effect first.
Mark J. Cuccia
markjcuccia at yahoo dot com
Lafayette LA, formerly of New Orleans LA pre-Katrina
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:54:10 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Israel Tests on Worm Called Crucial in Iran Nuclear Delay
Message-ID: <p06240842c9581bf154fa@[10.0.1.2]>
Israel Tests on Worm Called Crucial in Iran Nuclear Delay
By WILLIAM J. BROAD, JOHN MARKOFF and DAVID E. SANGER
January 15, 2011
This article is by William J. Broad, John Markoff and David E. Sanger.
The Dimona complex in the Negev desert is famous as the heavily
guarded heart of Israel's never-acknowledged nuclear arms program,
where neat rows of factories make atomic fuel for the arsenal.
Over the past two years, according to intelligence and military
experts familiar with its operations, Dimona has taken on a new,
equally secret role - as a critical testing ground in a joint
American and Israeli effort to undermine Iran's efforts to make a
bomb of its own.
Behind Dimona's barbed wire, the experts say, Israel has spun nuclear
centrifuges virtually identical to Iran's at Natanz, where Iranian
scientists are struggling to enrich uranium. They say Dimona tested
the effectiveness of the Stuxnet computer worm, a destructive program
that appears to have wiped out roughly a fifth of Iran's nuclear
centrifuges and helped delay, though not destroy, Tehran's ability to
make its first nuclear arms.
"To check out the worm, you have to know the machines," said an
American expert on nuclear intelligence. "The reason the worm has
been effective is that the Israelis tried it out."
Though American and Israeli officials refuse to talk publicly about
what goes on at Dimona, the operations there, as well as related
efforts in the United States, are among the newest and strongest
clues suggesting that the virus was designed as an American-Israeli
project to sabotage the Iranian program.
In recent days, the retiring chief of Israel's Mossad intelligence
agency, Meir Dagan, and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
separately announced that they believed Iran's efforts had been set
back by several years. Mrs. Clinton cited American-led sanctions,
which have hurt Iran's ability to buy components and do business
around the world.
The gruff Mr. Dagan, whose organization has been accused by Iran of
being behind the deaths of several Iranian scientists, told the
Israeli Knesset in recent days that Iran had run into technological
difficulties that could delay a bomb until 2015. That represented a
sharp reversal from Israel's long-held argument that Iran was on the
cusp of success.
The biggest single factor in putting time on the nuclear clock
appears to be Stuxnet, the most sophisticated cyberweapon ever
deployed.
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/middleeast/16stuxnet.html
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:58:03 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Can Your Camera Phone Turn You Into a Pirate?
Message-ID: <p06240843c9581ccc8857@[10.0.1.2]>
Can Your Camera Phone Turn You Into a Pirate?
By NICK BILTON
January 15, 2011
MY wife and I sat cross-legged on the floor of a local Barnes & Noble
store recently, surrounded by several large piles of books. We were
searching for interior design ideas for a new home that we are
planning to buy.
As we lobbed the books back and forth, sharing kitchen layouts and
hardwood floor textures, we snapped a dozen pictures of book pages
with our iPhones. We wanted to share them later with our contractor.
After a couple of hours of this, we placed the books back on the
shelf and went home, without buying a thing. But the digital images
came home with us in our smartphones.
Later that evening, I felt a few pangs of guilt. I asked my wife: Did
we do anything wrong? And, I wondered, had we broken any laws by
photographing those pages?
It's not as if we had destroyed anything: We didn't rip out any
pages. But if we had wheeled a copier machine into the store, you can
be sure the management would have soon wheeled us and the machine out
of there.
But our smartphones really functioned as hand-held copiers. Did we
indeed go too far?
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/business/16ping.html
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:07:56 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Wireless, but Leashed
Message-ID: <p06240845c9581f6c25ed@[10.0.1.2]>
Wireless, but Leashed
By JOSHUA BRUSTEIN
January 15, 2011
Americans were liberated from AT&T last week.
The news that Apple was ending its exclusive relationship with AT&T
and would begin selling the iPhone 4 on Verizon's network in the
United States was not a surprise, but the excitement was palpable
nonetheless.
"Freedom!" bellowed Jon Stewart on "The Daily Show," in a segment in
which people described their relationship to AT&T as that of slaves
to their masters, subjects to their tyrants.
Given the dissatisfaction with AT&T, it is easy to look at other
parts of the world and wonder why this didn't happen sooner. After
all, the iPhone is available on multiple carriers in many European
markets. France even has a law that would have made AT&T's exclusive
agreement with Apple illegal. Almost half of mobile phone customers
in the largest European countries do not have contracts with wireless
carriers, and can switch phones from one network to another with ease.
The continent's system is looser in part because Europe settled on a
single technological standard for wireless carriers 20 years ago.
Countries there wanted to ensure that their citizens' phones would
work as they traveled throughout the Continent. No such agreement was
reached in the United States, which had recently deregulated its
telephone industry, and carriers built their networks on separate
technologies.
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/weekinreview/16brustein.html
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:54:23 -0800
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: My Taxes? I Filed by Phone
Message-ID: <4D32880F.7050803@thadlabs.com>
On 1/14/2011 4:38 PM, Monty Solomon wrote:
> My Taxes? I Filed by Phone
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/technology/personaltech/15phone.html
>
> By VERNE G. KOPYTOFF
> January 14, 2011
> [...]
> The app is intended for consumers who are increasingly using their
> mobile phones for everything, including shopping and banking online.
> Taxes are just the next step, although it may take some getting used
> to for people who are accustomed to preparing their returns with a
> pencil and calculator or on a desktop computer.
Is it just me or does the above seem idiotic to others, too? Where are
the copies of everything in case there's a problem with an order or with
a banking transaction or the tax filing?
I'm not a Luddite: http://thadlabs.com/PIX/Thad_desk.jpg.
For my online banking, every screen is saved as a "Printed" PDF for
reference. For online shopping, I collect even more info. To show you
what I mean as an example, here's a ls showing the PDF screenshots and
email resulting from a recent transaction with NewEgg buying 4GB RAM to
upgrade one of my systems:
REGULUS bash 1/3900> pwd
/cygdrive/c/Users/thad/Desktop/ORDERS/2010.12.13_NewEgg
REGULUS bash 1/3900> ls -1
00_Mushkin_RAM.pdf
01_shopping_cart.pdf
02_shipping+payment_options.pdf
03_verify_order.pdf
04_verified_by_Visa.pdf
05_order_confirmation.pdf
06_confirmation_print_page.pdf
0WHERE_Mushkin.txt
Mushkin_996756_4GB_DDR2.pdf
Newegg.com - DHL Tracking.eml
Newegg.com - Invoice.eml
Newegg.com - Order Confirmation.eml
Newegg.com - Payment Charged.eml
TRAK_1.pdf
TRAK_2.pdf
TRAK_3.pdf
TRAK_4_delivered.pdf
tracking_number_DHL_GlobalMail.txt
REGULUS bash 1/3900>
How would anyone even be able to save any of that information using
a smartphone? I'd really like to know. Or do "smartphone" users
simply not care?
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:03:27 -0600
From: rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Very interesting product
Message-ID: <VOGdnQAuQriC4a_QnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>
John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
+---------------
| tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
| > In either case they will work "at all" because the connection will
| > fall back to an EDGE -- or even a GPRS -- connection. GPRS is a hair
| > faster than old 56 Kb/s dial-up was; EDGE is a hair faster than slowest
| > available DSL (768 Kb/s). Full-speed HSDPA connections can easily exceed
| > 3 Mb/s DSL speeds, depending on the carrier and your equipment.
|
| AT&T = 3G
| T-Mobile = EDGE
+---------------
Actually, AT&T still supports EDGE (and EDGE-2, and GPRS) even in
places where 3G is fully(?) deployed, e.g., the San Francisco Bay Area.
When 3G gets congested, which is often around rush hour, AT&T will
push people off to EDGE. You can see this on phones which display a "G"
when they're getting 3G service and "E" when they're only getting EDGE.
The same is also true of my "Laptop Connect" service, using an old
Sierra Wireless AC860 PCMCIA card. Unless I "lock" the card onto 3G
[using "AT!BAND=02"], it will bounce me back & forth from HSDPA (3G)
to EDGE (2G) without warning... assigning new IP addresses and
blowing away my SSH sessions in the process!!
-Rob
p.s. One of the few annoying things about my "Captivate"
[Samsung Galaxy-S tweaked for AT&T] is that it sometimes
gets "stuck" in EDGE-only mode, and then never switches
back to 3G until the next time I power-cycle it. (*grumpf!*)
I don't know if this is a problem with the phone's radio,
with the Android-2.1 driver for it, or with AT&T's policies.
All I know for sure it's that it's very irritating!
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
Rob Warnock <rpw3@rpw3.org>
627 26th Avenue <URL:http://rpw3.org/>
San Mateo, CA 94403 (650)572-2607
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:41:31 -0600
From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Pay phone unplugged after costing Davison County $69 per call
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVz0hEs_Vat=FwFpuFhnqEvt5kYfXNPWK5Xzig@mail.gmail.com>
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/news/state-and-regional/south-dakota/article_2e232f62-20b1-11e0-82e6-001cc4c03286.html
MITCHELL, S.D. (AP) - A pay phone in the county courthouse in Mitchell
will be unplugged after officials discovered it cost the county $69
per call last year.
County Maintenance Supervisor Mark Ruml told the Davison County
Commission that he'd never seen anyone use the phone in more than
three years and money to pay for it was coming out of his budget.
It cost the county $763 a year to have the phone. Ruml said records
showed only 11 calls were placed on the phone in 2010.
The Daily Republic newspaper said the county commission voted to remove it.
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Pay phone unplugged after costing Davison County $69 per call
Message-ID: <igvdpg$o8d$3@news.albasani.net>
John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
>http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/news/state-and-regional/south-dakota/article_2e232f62-20b1-11e0-82e6-001cc4c03286.html
>MITCHELL, S.D. (AP) - A pay phone in the county courthouse in Mitchell
>will be unplugged after officials discovered it cost the county $69
>per call last year.
>County Maintenance Supervisor Mark Ruml told the Davison County
>Commission that he'd never seen anyone use the phone in more than
>three years and money to pay for it was coming out of his budget.
>It cost the county $763 a year to have the phone. Ruml said records
>showed only 11 calls were placed on the phone in 2010.
>The Daily Republic newspaper said the county commission voted to remove it.
Have they ever heard of the concept of competitive bidding? They might
have found a payphone services provider willing to place a phone there.
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:20:10 -0600
From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Can Your Camera Phone Turn You Into a Pirate?
Message-ID: <AANLkTimhmNEvhMvGaaP9sCO+XDB48W-=fD+moYrfSNJB@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:
>
> Can Your Camera Phone Turn You Into a Pirate?
Something I noticed in Malaysia. Nearly every store has a "no
photography" policy and they appear to enforce it. A few times I saw
teens posing and someone attempting to take a picture only to have a
security guard march over and scold them. I enjoy bookstores but the
ones there had every book and magazine shrink wrapped making browsing
a little difficult.
Up until then I hadn't really given that much thought, but I could see
people snapping a few pics rather than buying the book or magazine.
John
--
John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:37:09 -0500
From: "Bob Goudreau" <BobGoudreau@nc.rr.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: With Verizon on the Horizon, iPhone Users Weigh Leaving AT&T - but there's a Catch
Message-ID: <85DF49D5D8A045B8B32D5432506E317F@meng.lab.emc.com>
Steve Kosteck <steve@kostecke.net> wrote:
> On 2011-01-09, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:
>
>> Most notably, Verizon customers aren't able to surf the Web or
>> exchange email while they're talking on their phone.
>
> I've had no problem using my Droid's browser during a phone
> call (on Verizon).
I suspect that one of the following explanations applies in your case:
1) You were viewing web pages that were still in the browser cache, and
which therefore didn't need to be downloaded during your call.
2) Your phone was using its WiFi radio to access the internet during your
call.
3) You have one of the several "world phone" models that Verizon offers, and
were connecting on a GSM/HSPA network (not Verizon's CDMA/EVDO network),
perhaps in another country.
4) You have one of Verizon's new LTE phones. 4G LTE, unlike 3G EVDO, allows
simultaneous voice and data traffic.
If you were connecting to the internet via Verizon's standard CDMA/EVDO
network, then you could not have simultaneously run a voice call. This is a
technological limitation of EVDO, which originally stood for "EVolution,
Data Only". Originally, there were also plans on the CDMA technology road
map for EVDV (EVolution, Data/Voice). However, network equipment
manufacturers, handset manufacturers and network operators never ended up
getting EVDV off the ground.
Bob Goudreau
Cary, NC
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