The Telecom Digest for December 29, 2010
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 23:45:03 -0600
From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Prepaid SIMs in the USA
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=tCuHdXu3sCaBfhpkr7OfzC4CkyMXPuf=M6FZ=@mail.gmail.com>
For many years I've been perfectly content to take whatever phone a
wireless company offered and paid obscene monthly rates whether I
barely used the phone or used all my minutes. And I liked it that
way. But these days I want to decouple my phone from my carrier.
Ideally I'd like a prepaid plan that gives high data usage, but low
phone usage that is cheaper than what I'm paying today. And since I'm
talking SIM cards, yes, GSM.
What are my options in the USA? I've nosed around and I can't find
anything. Prepaid plans here seem to be targeted to older people or
young people without credit. Is there perhaps a third option?
Postpaid without a contract?
John
--
John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:46:38 -0800
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: History--Eight Digit US telephone numbers?
Message-ID: <fICdnW0QfNDTZYTQnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Lisa or Jeff wrote:
>
> The history says they tried call waiting on the #5 but it wasn't cost-
> efficient to implement as a service on that machine.
>
I am aware the SBC actually deployed some calling features on a No. 5
XBAR on the north side of Kansas City, MO. A friend of mine subscribed
to them circa late 1960s. I don't recall whether he was part of a test
group or whether it was a public offering for that particular switch.
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:24:13 -0800
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: History--Eight Digit US telephone numbers?
Message-ID: <AaydnWJMna2ggIfQnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Joseph Singer wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:07:39 -0800 Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Alas, there used to be a web site with recordings of all those
>>switch sounds, including panel.
>
>
> Well, it still exists:
>
> http://www.wideweb.com/phonetrips/
>
>
>
>
That's the one! Same geeks. :-)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:34:53 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: The Rise of Apps, iPad and Android
Message-ID: <p0624080bc93fcffb9fe7@[10.0.1.2]>
The Rise of Apps, iPad and Android
By ANDREW DOWELL
DECEMBER 27, 2010
In 2010, the computer truly went mobile.
Sure, users of Apple Inc.'s iPhone have had the Web in their hands
since 2007. But this past year, smartphones plunged into the
mainstream, giving millions of people the ability to browse the
Internet, watch movies and stream music anywhere they could maintain
a cellular or Wi-Fi connection-and without having to find a place to
sit down and boot up a laptop.
There were 81 million smartphones sold world-wide in the third
quarter, the analysts at Gartner say, almost twice as many as a year
earlier. They accounted for nearly one in five mobile phones sold
that quarter. The chiefs of Verizon Communications Inc. and AT&T Inc.
think smartphones could account for nearly three of every four phones
sold by the middle of the decade.
This surge has upended the balance of power in the wireless market.
Devices running on Android, the software distributed by Google Inc.,
and Apple's iOS have shot past Research In Motion Ltd's BlackBerry,
Gartner data show. Android is even closing in on market leader Nokia
Corp., which has struggled and replaced its CEO this year.
Microsoft Corp., a powerhouse on the desktop, is struggling to find a
foothold, with just 2.8% of the market for its mobile operating
system in the third quarter. It has pinned its hopes on devices
running a new version, Windows Phone 7, which are just hitting stores.
This past year also saw the tablet computer finally get traction,
thanks to Apple and its iPad. The company sold 7.5 million iPads in
their first six months on the market, and Gartner thinks nearly 55
million tablets will sell next year.
The momentum in technology is now with devices that can easily be
carried around and the applications that sustain them.
The Journal runs through the defining moments of that transition this
year and look at what to expect in 2011:
...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704774604576035611315663944.html
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:29:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: ZIP Codes and barcodes
Message-ID: <46551.83022.qm@web111717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> wrote:
> At the opposite extreme is mail handling in my town of
> Pahrump, NV,
> 60 miles from Las Vegas. Mail from Pahrump to Pahrump
> goes to Las
> Vegas for canceling and sorting, and back to Pahrump for
> distribution.
> We get next day delivery for such mail. Apparently,
> it's cheaper not
> to do cancellation in Pahrump. We used to have two
> mail slots in the
> post office: Pahrump and not-Pahrump; now there is only
> one.
>
> Dick
That happens in a lot of places any more. Sorting out the mail
manually at the originating post office is very time consuming.
Some of the mail from Pahrump is going to other places. The first
time-consuming task in sorting the local mail manually to separate the
outgoing pieces. Is the collection box ouside the post office the
only place to mail letters in Pahrump? If not, there is probably a
lot of mail coming in from other sources, for example mail collected
by city letter carriers from patrons or coming in from rural routes
that is not segregated by local/non-local. (Does Pahrump have city
delivery? I lived in a town that did not and you had to go to the
post office to pick up your mail.)
But mechanical sorting is so much less labor-intensive and so much
faster that you can go a considerable distance to get that advantage
and still get next day delivery.
After all, telecommunications traffic--even local calls from landlines--is
done that way.
Wes Leatherock
wleathus@yahoo.com
wesrock@aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:43:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: History--Eight Digit US telephone numbers?
Message-ID: <112724.49490.qm@web111705.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
--- On Mon, 12/27/10, jsw <jsw@ivgate.omahug.org> wrote:
> What you are describing, to a tee, is the final selector
> or 'connector' in a Strowger (step) office.
If there is a rotary group customer on the final selector it will
search for a vacant line to that customer in the group just like in a
earlier seclector in the switch train. The last line is busied out in
the hunt group. If there is more than one hunt group, it works the
same when when dialing the first number in each group.
> The next to last digit, the 'tens' digit, would cause the
> switch to ratchet upward, the number of levels being equal
> to the digit on the dial, and the last digit, the 'units'
> digit, would cause it to rotate into the bank to the line
> being called.
>
> #include <vertical_pawl stationary_dog double_dog
> etc.h> ;-)
>
> The first and second (incoming) selectors would step
> upward
> along with the dial pulses and then rotate to a vacant
> connection to the selector for the next digit.
>
> A distinct audible 'clunk' could always be heard right
> after
> dialing the thousands and hundreds digits, as the selector
> rotated and seized the next level selector, but not after
> the tens digit. Similar clunks could be heard after
> each
> digit when dialing the office code, but the clunk after
> the
> first digit was often times masked by the extinction of
> the
> dial tone.
>
> As I think back I can't think of any 'Centrex' or even any
> DID-PBX installations hosted on a #1 crossbar. I do
> recall
> some native #5 crossbar Centrex (or was it really DID-PBX,
> I
> guess it's a matter of semantics) installations and I do
> remember that #5 crossbar often times hosted the 101 ESS
> Centrex-CU installations, but I don't recall any #1
> crossbar
> switches driving the 101 either.
When Phillips 66 headquarters in Bartlesville, Okla., adopted centrex,
the engineers determine it was chaper to make it a centrex-CO and
serve it out of the existing #5XB at the CO a block away.
Wes Leatherock
wleathus@yahoo.com
wesrock@aol.com
Date: 28 Dec 2010 16:21:38 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Prepaid SIMs in the USA
Message-ID: <20101228162138.8294.qmail@joyce.lan>
>way. But these days I want to decouple my phone from my carrier.
>Ideally I'd like a prepaid plan that gives high data usage, but low
>phone usage that is cheaper than what I'm paying today. And since I'm
>talking SIM cards, yes, GSM.
That limits you to AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T's prepaid service is Gophone,
which is not cheap for high data use. You can get 1MB for $5, or 100MB
for $20, or per use at 1 cent / kb. T-Mobile is no better:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/prepaid-plans.aspx
Some looking around on the net says that 100MB for $20 is the best
prepaid GSM data rate available in the US.
I have a GSM Tracfone which you wouldn't like. The SIM is tied to the
phone (if you put it in a different phone, or you put a different SIM
in the phone, neither works), and their data pricing is opaque and high,
I see that Boost Mobile has some reasonable prices, underlying network
is Sprint, and if you ask nicely, you can switch your account to any
other Sprint CDMA phone.
R's,
John
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:30:05 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Prepaid SIMs in the USA
Message-ID: <alpine.WNT.2.00.1012281028170.4260@AURM106297.americas.ad.flextronics.com>
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010, John Levine wrote:
> That limits you to AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T's prepaid service is Gophone,
> which is not cheap for high data use. You can get 1MB for $5, or 100MB
> for $20, or per use at 1 cent / kb. T-Mobile is no better:
Thanks. Sounds like I was lied to. :-)
I was listening to an episode of "This Week in Google" and one of the
hosts mentioned a prepaid plan with unlimited data. I absolutely could
not find anything of the sort and perhaps the reason is because it doesn't
exist.
John
--
John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
Date: 28 Dec 2010 11:42:46 -0500
From: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Prepaid SIMs in the USA
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1012281141360.8985@joyce.lan>
> I was listening to an episode of "This Week in Google" and one of the hosts
> mentioned a prepaid plan with unlimited data. I absolutely could not find
> anything of the sort and perhaps the reason is because it doesn't exist.
It's possible one exists for a dongle you plug into your PC.
Or, more likely, he lives somewhere other than the US. Our large
volume voice rates are very cheap, but our large volume data rates are
not.
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:00:29 -0600
From: Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Prepaid SIMs in the USA
Message-ID: <ifdfii$qp5$1@news.eternal-september.org>
On 12/28/2010 10:30 AM, John Mayson wrote:
> I was listening to an episode of "This Week in Google" and one of the
> hosts mentioned a prepaid plan with unlimited data. I absolutely
> could not find anything of the sort and perhaps the reason is because
> it doesn't exist.
I've heard of people getting a Sprint Blackberry, getting a cheap
Boost prepaid phone, and putting the SIM card from the Boost into the
Blackberry. Allegedly then you end up with a phone that gets voice at
the Boost rates, and free data. Haven't tried it myself, and it's
hard to imagine that Sprint wouldn't plug the loophole if it does
indeed exist.
Dave
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 08:24:55 -0500
From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Prepaid SIMs in the USA
Message-ID: <op.vofd7tiritl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net>
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:39:01 -0500, John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
> ... these days I want to decouple my phone from my carrier.
> Ideally I'd like a prepaid plan that gives high data usage, but low
> phone usage that is cheaper than what I'm paying today. And since I'm
> talking SIM cards, yes, GSM.
>
> What are my options in the USA? ...
Two thoughts, neither, alas, terribly attractive:
1) Find a foreign telco roaming on both T-Mo and at&t/ws at attractive
prepaid rates (if possible); or
2) Ask over at alt.cellular.attws about GSM counterparts to the well-loved
PagePlus prepaid CDMA services.
Cheers, and keep us posted what you find, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:23:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon's FiOS
Message-ID: <ifd6fc$m86$2@reader1.panix.com>
"Gary" <bogus-email@hotmail.com> writes:
>The upstream channel is a 155Mbps ATM data flow. Of course, the phone
>service has a portion of this bandwidth dedicated to it. The subscriber's
>upstream internet data flows through this link as well. This link is shared
>with up to 32 users on a fiber. The OLT is in charge of granting transmit
>permission to the ONTs. Phone service is guaranteed by ATM classes of
>service as well as proper network engineering. Internet data is best effort
>up to the subscriber's transmit speed.
So the ONT's laser diode gets a time slot to transmit, and otherwise sits unlit?
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:25:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: ZIP Codes and barcodes
Message-ID: <ifd6it$m86$3@reader1.panix.com>
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
>Outgoing mail picked up by carriers and from street collection boxes is
>a mixed mail stream of letters and flats; generally, parcels are handled
>separately. The mail handler at the delivery unit does what he can to
>separate flats from letters and remove mail with no postage before
>sending it to the plant. He also tries to separate metered mail, which
>if it can be faced, is supposed to skip the cancelling step.
Will they still even look at the POSTNET I can & do put on my envelopes;
or should I just stop doing so?
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:19:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: ZIP Codes and barcodes
Message-ID: <ifdk91$4lc$1@news.albasani.net>
David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes:
>>Outgoing mail picked up by carriers and from street collection boxes is
>>a mixed mail stream of letters and flats; generally, parcels are handled
>>separately. The mail handler at the delivery unit does what he can to
>>separate flats from letters and remove mail with no postage before
>>sending it to the plant. He also tries to separate metered mail, which
>>if it can be faced, is supposed to skip the cancelling step.
>Will they still even look at the POSTNET I can & do put on my envelopes;
>or should I just stop doing so?
A single-piece letter with preprinted barcode and postage paid with
stamps or metered requires a FIM A pattern (facing identification mark).
FIM pattern is placed adjacent to and to the left of the postage. The
scanner in the facer-canceller machine looking for tags on postage stamps
and flourescent ink in meter marks will spot it, causing diversion of the
letter from the encoding step. The scanner in the facer-canceller machine
doesn't check the address block at all, where you have undoubtably printed
the POSTNET. With no FIM pattern, the letter will not skip the encoding
step and another POSTNET barcode will be sprayed on in the lower right
hand corner. The lower right-hand corner is the superior position to the
the address block.
FIM must be printed to the edge of the envelope, possibly bleeding over
the fold, or within a distance shorter than most home printers require for
the margin. The usual kludge is to lie to the printer about the envelope's
true dimensions, but that may not be good for the printer.
The FIM specification is found at DMM 708.9
http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm300/708.htm#wp1316612
http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm300/002_FIM_placement_t.htm
Note that the nine-digit barcode in the FIM pattern is a palindrome.
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:48:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: ZIP Codes and barcodes
Message-ID: <eb91522a-0f5a-4043-bfb7-0a212fcfb8fb@32g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 27, 6:35 pm, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >The main post office in Lawton, Oklahoma, has a separate collection
> >box out in front, in addition to the "local" and "not local" boxes,
> >for mail to Wichita Falls, Texas, because the cities are so closely
> >associated economically and socially. That mail goes directly to
> >Wichita Falls. Otherwise it would follow the path through the
> >processing center in Oklahoma City, fly or be trucked to the
> >processing center north of Dallas, and finally go from there to
> >Wichita Falls, taking two days. The direct dispatch saves a day over
> >automation.
>
> Good idea. I wonder if that's common at a lot of post offices on the
> edge of territory served by a major plant.
>
> However, I'm shocked that that post office still has local and out-of-town
> boxes. I've heard of post offices that refuse to order parts for the
> cancelling machine and stop maintaining them, so desperate to cut down on
> clerks' hours that they won't let them run the machines. The only way
> to get a local cancel any more is to insist on a window clerk using the
> round dating stamp. For all I know, these may have been removed as well.
Our post office once had separate "local (within zip code)" and "out
of town" boxes but these have been removed. They told me all mail,
even stuff within the zip code, is sent to the major post office for
processing in the city 35 miles away.
We are also at the state border. It would make sense to have a box
for the other state's mail per above but they don't. Mail going inter-
state usually takes an extra day even if the air-line distance is
short.
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 11:11:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Prepaid SIMs in the USA
Message-ID: <972360.96749.qm@web52701.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Mon, 27 Dec 2010 23:39:01 -0600 John Mayson <john@mayson.us> écrit:
<<For many years I've been perfectly content to take whatever phone a
wir
eless company offered and paid obscene monthly rates whether I
barely use
d the phone or used all my minutes. And I liked it that
way. But these
days I want to decouple my phone from my carrier.
Ideally I'd like a prep
aid plan that gives high data usage, but low
phone usage that is cheaper
than what I'm paying today. And since I'm
talking SIM cards, yes, GSM.
What are my options in the USA? I've nosed around and I can't find
anything. Prepaid plans here seem to be targeted to older people or
y
oung people without credit. Is there perhaps a third option?
Postpaid wi
thout a contract?>>
There are now numerous options if you decide to go
the prepaid route. T-Mobile for instance has several options from $30 - $
70 per month for either unlimited ($50 - $70) voice minutes or $30 for comb
ined voice minutes and text with a small amount of data.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/prepaid-plans.aspx
There's also AT&T
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-plans/pyg-cell-phone-plans.jsp?_requestid=2497
or
http://goo.gl/8bwr3
Those ar
e the only national GSM operators in the US. There are some smaller region
al operators, but for national operators there's basically just AT&T and T-
Mobile.
As far as no contract service I believe you can get it from T-
Mobile, but they'll still do a credit check on you and if you don't have an
y US credit you may be relegated to some sort of prepaid scheme.
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:06:15 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Apple Sued Over Applications Giving Information to Advertisers
Message-ID: <p06240811c93ff368ed5b@[10.0.1.2]>
Apple Sued Over Applications Giving Information to Advertisers
By Joel Rosenblatt
December 28, 2010, 12:28 PM EST
Dec. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Apple Inc., making of the iPhone and iPad, was
accused in a lawsuit of allowing applications for those devices to
transmit users' personal information to advertising networks without
customers' consent.
The complaint, which seeks class action, or group, status, was filed
on Dec. 23 in federal court in San Jose, California. The suit claims
Cupertino, California-based Apple's iPhones and iPads are encoded
with identifying devices that allow advertising networks to track
what applications users download, how frequently they're used and for
how long.
...
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-12-28/apple-sued-over-applications-giving-information-to-advertisers.html
Date: 29 Dec 2010 00:00:57 GMT
From: Doug McIntyre <merlyn@geeks.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: No Signal: Homes Often Baffle Wi-Fi From Routers
Message-ID: <4d1a7a39$0$87587$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net>
David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> writes:
>On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 19:05:00 -0600, John Mayson wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No Signal: Homes Often Baffle Wi-Fi From Routers
>>
>> I'm glad it's not just me.
>>
>> While my house is large by global standards, it's hardly a McMansion. I
>> have mine set to a channel with no other devices nearby.
>...........
>I have installed a few WAPs recently where they have the ability to
>continually scan all available channels and automatically switch to the
>frequency with the lesser signals on it.
>This seems almost necessary now in high-density locales with multitudes of
>these devices all competing for use of the same channels.
Easy solution, ignore the 2.4GHz band, and go up into the 5GHz band
only and make sure all your gear is up-to-date to utilize it.
I have yet to find another WiFi AP besides my own up in the 5GHz band..
Although I do know that there are some devices that just will never get
out of the 2.4GHz band.
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:56:23 -0700
From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: No Signal: Homes Often Baffle Wi-Fi From Routers
Message-ID: <jo1lh6prt5kd05gfvq0cgjtg2pegs63e2q@4ax.com>
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:02:31 -0800, Richard <rng@richbonnie.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:31:25 -0700, Fred Atkinson
><fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com> wrote:
>
>> When I got my second Mustang, it had a light to tell me when
>>to shift the gears. I thought it incredibly stupid.
>
>Why? Was it telling you the wrong time to shift?
>
>Dick
No. It was causing me to develop a bad habit of ignoring
idiot lights, which is what I already said.
Fred
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