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The Telecom Digest for May 27, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 143 : "text" Format

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  Re: White Pages fading out?                                 (Bob Goudreau)
  Re: White Pages fading out?                           (Harold Hallikainen)
  Re: White Pages fading out?                                 (Jeff or Lisa)
  Re: White Pages fading out?                                 (Jeff or Lisa)

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Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 04:36:20 -0400 From: "Bob Goudreau" <BobGoudreau@nc.rr.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: White Pages fading out? Message-ID: <49BD5C4F8FC541D8BD4E62AF949A3D5E@meng.lab.emc.com> Adam Kerman writes: > Where AT&T has a listing services agreement with R.H. Donnelley, use > http://dexpages.com/ > > R.H. Donnelley is the official printed phone directory for certain phone > companies, including part of AT&T territory and all of Qwest territory, > but an alternative telephone directory in other parts of the country. Just a name update... The R.H. Donnelly name is no more. The company relocated its headquarters to my town a few years ago and eventually went through Chapter 11 bankruptcy. It emerged from bankruptcy reorganization under the new corporate name "Dex One". See http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/rh-donnelley-emerges-from-chapter-11-as-dex-one-corporation-83234597.html and http://dexone.com/ for details. Bob Goudreau Cary, NC
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 05:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Harold Hallikainen <harold@hallikainen.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: White Pages fading out? Message-ID: <bfdb824f-73b3-4b62-bcf2-a1f83341e5b5@23g2000pre.googlegroups.com> . > > It's people search feature IS NOT the Verizon residential telephone subscribers > with listed telephone numbers, just another front end to whitepages.com, one > of the information consolidators. > > Verizon is the odd-man out without a look-and-feel director Web site. > I have a Verizon phone line at home. http://find.person.superpages.com/ lists me several times at current and previous addresses. Most listings say the phone number is not available. One listing does show a phone number, but it is wrong. If Verizon is going to get rid of paper white pages and tell people to use this web site, it needs some work. But, do we need to look up personal phone numbers anymore? Cellular phones seem to be working out well with every number being "unlisted." Harold
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:20:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff or Lisa <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: White Pages fading out? Message-ID: <a0e32e00-d04e-48d1-aa17-2d62afe713e7@b21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com> On May 25, 10:04 pm, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote: > Verizon's directory publishing arm keeps getting spun off. It's changed > its name a number of times. Recently it became SuperMedia, formerly > Idearc Media, formerly GTE Publishing. SuperMedia is FairPoint's official > directory publisher right now, but who knows how long that agreement will last. Idearc filed for bankruptcy. > But superpages.com/ itself is somewhat reliable only for business > listings in Verizon territory and dreadful outside of Verizon > territory. No idea of its accuracy in FairPoint territory. Verizon is lousy. I tried looking up a pizza place and I got responses for places 150 miles away. Sorry, but nobody's pizza is that good to justify that kind of drive. The other points in Mr. Kerman's post well excellent. Thanks for the description of the operations.
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff or Lisa <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: White Pages fading out? Message-ID: <4ecd2942-5192-4178-b61b-923d76669fef@k31g2000vbu.googlegroups.com> On May 25, 10:57 am, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote: > >It's about time.  They all need to make available on-line the except > >copy of the paper book, which AT&T has already done for most of their > >LEC territory. > > The RBOCs' white pages are all online. > > Verizon    http://find.person.superpages.com/ > AT&T          http://www.anywho.com/ > Qwest      http://dexknows.whitepages.com/ I tried some of those for my family. I found: --A phone number out of service for at least 6 years is shown on the "optional search" page. --A person deceased for 6 years is shown on the "optional search" page. --A person was listed in the wrong city with an old number. --The location of an exchange was shown on a map some 20 miles away from its actual location. > There's quite a lot of overlap, since white pages listings are not > subject to copyright in the US. The White Pages books I have have copyright notices are on them. One has a copyright on every page.
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