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The Telecom Digest for May 26, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 142 : "text" Format

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  Re: White Pages fading out?                                    (Sam Spade)
  Re: White Pages fading out?                                  (John Levine)
  Re: White Pages fading out?                               (Adam H. Kerman)

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Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 02:34:52 -0700 From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: White Pages fading out? Message-ID: <e4udnadCx_whBGbWnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@giganews.com> Jeff or Lisa wrote: > Phila newsradio 1060 reported that Verizon is seeking to end full > distribution of the White Pages. Yellow Pages, which consists of paid > advertising, will continue. > > for full article please see: > http://www.kyw1060.com/Largely-Unused-White-Pages-May-Fade-to-Black/7178415 > > > --Jeff. > It's about time. They all need to make available on-line the except copy of the paper book, which AT&T has already done for most of their LEC territory. It should be 100% for all LECs.
Date: 25 May 2010 14:57:22 -0000 From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: White Pages fading out? Message-ID: <20100525145722.4603.qmail@joyce.lan> >It's about time. They all need to make available on-line the except >copy of the paper book, which AT&T has already done for most of their >LEC territory. The RBOCs' white pages are all online. Verizon http://find.person.superpages.com/ AT&T http://www.anywho.com/ Qwest http://dexknows.whitepages.com/ There's quite a lot of overlap, since white pages listings are not subject to copyright in the US. Canada http://www.canada411.ca/ That's a joint site by all 11 of the Canadian ILECs. R's, John
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 02:04:32 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: White Pages fading out? Message-ID: <hthvjg$737$1@news.albasani.net> John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: >>It's about time. They all need to make available on-line the except >>copy of the paper book, which AT&T has already done for most of their >>LEC territory. >The RBOCs' white pages are all online. A few months back, I posted a review of quality of various on line listing databases, as I was dismayed that the quality was getting poorer, not better. The problem is that the field has been taken over by the data consolidators, big time, where there's a financial incentive never to drop bad listings and out of date information. Even if you can get them to drop a bad listing, it reappears with their next purchase of the list from another data consolidator, till the idea of a source for the listing becomes moot. >Verizon http://find.person.superpages.com/ Verizon's directory publishing arm keeps getting spun off. It's changed its name a number of times. Recently it became SuperMedia, formerly Idearc Media, formerly GTE Publishing. SuperMedia is FairPoint's official directory publisher right now, but who knows how long that agreement will last. But superpages.com/ itself is somewhat reliable only for business listings in Verizon territory and dreadful outside of Verizon territory. No idea of its accuracy in FairPoint territory. It's people search feature IS NOT the Verizon residential telephone subscribers with listed telephone numbers, just another front end to whitepages.com, one of the information consolidators. Verizon is the odd-man out without a look-and-feel director Web site. >AT&T http://www.anywho.com/ No longer exists. Years ago, it was the official site of listed residential telephone subscribers. It's now a front end to Intellius, a rather inaccurate information consolidator, which attempts to sell cheapo credit checks and skip tracing services to businesses. However, it does continue to honor Anywho opt outs, which does nothing to remove the information from being accessed via another Intelius front end. AT&T has a look-and-feel Web site for directories AT&T Publishing publishes. http://www.realpageslive.com/ Where AT&T has a listing services agreement with R.H. Donnelley, use http://dexpages.com/ R.H. Donnelley is the official printed phone directory for certain phone companies, including part of AT&T territory and all of Qwest territory, but an alternative telephone directory in other parts of the country. So listing quality varies with regard to its receipt of official subscriber lists from telephone companies. >Qwest http://dexknows.whitepages.com/ Nope, just a front end to whitepages.com and not Qwest's listings. Use R.H. Donnelley's Web site.
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