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The Telecom Digest for April 29, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 118 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
 Re: Please do not change your password                                     (Steven)
 FCC could reclassify broadband Internet as "telecom" within weeks    (Thad Floryan)
 Re: NY MTA to expand wireless at Grand Central Terminal                      (tlvp)
 Re: A Convenient, Mysterious Service From Cable Companies                  (harold)
 FCC and FTC battling for control of the Internet                     (Thad Floryan)
 Re: FCC and FTC battling for control of the Internet                (David Clayton)

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:35:31 -0700 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Please do not change your password Message-ID: <hr7sc6$q1u$1@news.eternal-september.org> Wes Leatherock wrote: > When I was with Southwewstern Bell we traded with GTE and one of the > ones we got in exchange was Moore, OK, a growing suburb of Oklahoma > City which had an XY office. > > When it needed expansion (which was soon) the engineers wanted to just > add XY equipment to it, and wrote an estimate using W.E. prices for > SxS as a guide. > > When Western priced it with Stromberg, the prices were out of sight > and the engineers found you could repalce all the equipment with a new > W.E. SxS office for less than what it would cost to add XY equipment. > > Which they did, and sent the XY offices to two small towns in Western > Oklahoma which were awaiting dial conversion. They were in the same > wire chief's area, and so they only had to train one bunch on XY. When GTE California took over CWT, there were contracts for several XY offices, GTE canceled them and move a lot of the equipment to Valle Vista, but that office also had SXS in it , which made it very interesting. We had an office that was built to WE standards because GTE and Pacific Telephone were going to trade the South Laguna CO for Newport Beach as that area was GTE on 3 sites. The PUC would not allow the exchange and I would bet PacBell was happy because that is a very big financial center. In Huntington Beach, we had an office that sat on the 213/714 and had 2 switches in it, one was Full Satt (213) Satt Access (714) at that time it was the only office in the US that was set up like that, it was a very good training center and also getting visitors from all over the US to see it. With the way things are setup today that is old hat, sometime 3 or more A/C in an office. -- The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2010 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co.
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:49:06 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: FCC could reclassify broadband Internet as "telecom" within weeks Message-ID: <4BD7BE42.4050106@thadlabs.com> This is somewhat suprising news found in Dave Lazarus' column in the LA Times today: " A battle is about to erupt between federal regulators and telecom " companies, and nothing less than the future of the Internet could " be on the line. " " At issue is a seemingly benign question: Is the Net an " information service or a telecommunication service? " " As it stands, high-speed Internet service is classified by the " Federal Communications Commission as a "Title I" information " service in the same way that Google is an information " service. This means broadband providers such as phone and cable " companies are only lightly regulated by the agency. " " By reclassifying broadband as a "Title II" telecom service -- " like, say, phone service -- the FCC would be able to more closely " oversee providers' actions and pricing, and would be better " positioned to implement its recently announced 10-year plan to " bring high-speed Net access to virtually every U.S. home. " " I know: This is wonky stuff. But the stakes couldn't be higher, " especially at a time when broadband Internet service is playing " an increasingly vital role in a wide variety of areas, including " entertainment, education and healthcare. " " "This could determine whether the FCC really has the power to act " on its broadband plan," said Ben Scott, policy director with Free " Press, a communications advocacy group. "It will define who " really runs the Net." " " The issue has its roots in a ruling this month by the U.S. Court " of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit that the FCC has " only limited power under current law to control the online " actions of network operators such as phone and cable companies. " " The case grew out of assertions by cable giant Comcast Corp. that " it had a right to block Net users from accessing file-sharing " websites such as BitTorrent. " " The ruling effectively declared that the Net's corporate " gatekeepers can claim the last word when it comes to what passes " through their pipes -- not a great position for federal regulators " seeking to improve the nation's broadband resources. " " One possible way to enhance the FCC's jurisdiction over the Net " would be a bill from Congress firmly establishing the agency's " dominion over broadband networks, just as it oversees phone " systems. But with Republicans in full no-more-regulation mode, " such a legislative fix seems unlikely. " " That leaves reclassification of broadband's status from " information to telecom service. The FCC could do this " unilaterally, but it would then have to withstand a full-on " assault by interest-protecting, deep-pocketed phone and cable " companies. " [...] " But agency insiders tell me that movement toward reclassifying " broadband networks as telecom services could come within weeks. {article continues at the following URL} <http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-lazarus27-20100427,1,7986031.column>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:14:58 -0300 From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: NY MTA to expand wireless at Grand Central Terminal Message-ID: <op.vbulq8gritl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:46:29 -0300, Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: > One thing I don't understand is what changes they will make since > passengers on trains in the terminal and tunnel can already make > wireless calls. Some carriers provide signal in the Park Avenue tunnel. Others don't. In particular, T-Mobile has never had signal I could use there, neither for voice nor for data. So I guess there'll be more carriers' "towers" in there. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "harold@hallikainen.com" <harold@hallikainen.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: A Convenient, Mysterious Service From Cable Companies Message-ID: <d7b896c6-6a52-4b1a-96d1-e964a966c89a@t14g2000prm.googlegroups.com> I really think anyone offering "last mile" Internet connectivity should be doing something like this. It'd be really easy to do. Just give all your customers a wireless router like that used by http://www.fon.com . It sets up a private wireless network and a public one. Your cable, DSL, or whatever, would provide the Internet connectivity. If you are away from home, all you have to do is be near another subscriber and use the public wireless on their router. Data could be prioritized to give the most bandwidth to the private side of the network (the one who is actually paying for the connection). This sort of roaming would be very beneficial to users and would help sell the ISP service. Harold
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:19:20 -0700 From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: FCC and FTC battling for control of the Internet Message-ID: <4BD8A658.909@thadlabs.com> This is becoming hilarious. For those outside the USA: FCC = Federal Communications Commission, and FTC = Federal Trade Commission. Simple view: the FCC regulates telephony and the use of the airwaves, and the FTC is involved with commerce. The following extract is from the 27-April-2010 issue of the Washington Post: " The Federal Trade Commission could become a more powerful " watchdog for Internet users under a little-known provision in " financial overhaul legislation that would expand the agency's " ability to create rules. " " An emboldened FTC would stand in stark contrast to a besieged " Federal Communications Commission, whose ability to oversee " broadband providers has been cast into doubt after a federal " court ruled last month that the agency lacked the ability to " punish Comcast for violating open-Internet guidelines. " " The version of regulatory overhaul legislation passed by the " House would allow the FTC to issue rules on a fast track and " permit the agency to impose civil penalties on companies that " hurt consumers. FTC Chairman Jon Leibowitz has argued in favor of " bolstering his agency's enforcement ability. " " "If we had a deterrent, a bigger stick to fine malefactors, that " would be helpful," Leibowitz told Fox News last week. " " That provision to strengthen the FTC is absent from the financial " overhaul legislation before the Senate. Some observers, however, " expect the measure to be included when the House and Senate " versions are combined. " " The proposal comes as uncertainty surrounds the federal " government's ability to regulate the Internet and oversee service " providers. Spokeswomen at the FTC and FCC declined to comment. {Washington Post article continues at the following URL} http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042604335.html The FTC's charter concerning online access and security is here: http://www.ftc.gov/acoas/acoascharter.shtm
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:21:17 +1000 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: FCC and FTC battling for control of the Internet Message-ID: <pan.2010.> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:19:20 -0700, Thad Floryan wrote: > This is becoming hilarious. For those outside the USA: > > FCC = Federal Communications Commission, and FTC = Federal Trade > Commission. > > Simple view: the FCC regulates telephony and the use of the airwaves, and > the FTC is involved with commerce. ......... At least you should/will have something looking after your interests. In Australia we have a government hell-bent on filtering web sites (and keeping the filter list secret) for the whole country, and the major telco still holding the country back in an ongoing attempt to squeeze as much revenue as they can out of their legacy infrastructure. Our (separate) competition and communications regulators don't seem to have anywhere near as much influence as your do. There is a time where things can go crazy in one direction or the other, but on balance you don't seem to be doing too bad. -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
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