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 Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign?
 Re: Doc Porter Museum
 Re: Cold War history
 Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign?

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:11:41 -0500 From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign? Message-ID: <MPG.25cb10c08f8d06fa989c58@news.eternal-september.org> In article <2ec79.76f0645d.3891b5a8@aol.com>, Wesrock@aol.com says... > > In a message dated 1/26/2010 11:21:12 AM Central Standard Time, > jmyers@n6wuz.net writes > > > What was the source of that bias? > > The Bell Companies felt that they had been at W.E.'s mercy for so > long and that W.E. really didn't look on them as customers. Now > they were free to use other suppliers; as I recall required by the > Consent Decree required to take competiticve bids. As a matter of > fact, W.E. soon became more reesponsive. Not to mention, WE's pricing differed from company to company within the system. The more profitable children got first pick of the goods. Which kind of explains how little RI ended up with a #1ESS in 1972.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:13:48 +1100 From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Doc Porter Museum Message-ID: <pan.2010.> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:57:18 -0500, Bill Horne wrote: > Here's a link to the Doc Porter Museum of Telephone History, located > in Houston. They have a lot of nice pictures and some excellent > graphics. > > http://www.houstontelephonemuseum.com/ And if you want see a few pics of (really) old Australian phones, this site seems to have some stuff: http://www.ahts.org.au/ -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:23:39 -0800 (PST) From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Cold War history Message-ID: <8393a455-f5c4-4283-ade4-307c5116dc84@n7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> On Jan 27, 10:46 pm, Bill Horne <b...@horneQRM.net> wrote: > If you're curious about the relics of the cold war, please visit > http://coldwar-c4i.net/ , which has a number of pictures and lots of > information about America's attempts to prevent a mine-shaft gap. The Bell System was a major participant in defense projects during that era. An special AT&T unit managed Sandia labs which made weapons. In the 1960s dissidents bought stock in AT&T and demanded that Bell cease from such work (the protests didn't work). The US Dept of Defense was opposed to Divesture because it feared a weakened Bell System would not be able to meet their needs. Whether we like it or not, Cold War spending was responsible for a great many advances in communication and computer technology. The nuclear research labs (Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore) and the aerospace missile contractors had the money to fund the development of the ever bigger and more powerful super-computers. A major development of real-time computer processing occured from the SAGE air defense program. Domestic products benefited from the 'trickle down' of military work. One of the Bell Labs history series covers defense projects. Some consumer companies became defense contractors as well. RCA originally made phonographs, radios, records, and broadcast transmitters and equipment. During the Cold War their big growth, despite television, was in defense electronics. As time went on RCA got out of most consumer and broadcaster products.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:43:27 EST From: Wesrock@aol.com To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: at&t vs. Verizon TV ad campaign? Message-ID: <a2d3.58f59cea.389318af@aol.com> In a message dated 1/27/2010 9:57:31 PM Central Standard Time, jmyers@n6wuz.net writes: > Granted. Again, out of curiosity, what was the criterion for > deciding whether to install a new #4ESS equal access tandem in a > peer relation to existing metropolitan tandem switches? Surely it was engineering economics. The same kind of reason as deciding whether to put local interoffice trunk refinforcement on copper or carrier, or the case when the Oklahoma City wide area calling plan was introduced, deciding what was needed to establish routing for all the new prefixes that were being added in a mostly step city. The engineering economics answer was a step-by-step tandem, although state's chief engineer had been hoping it would be some kind of common control equipment. Wes Leatherock wesrock@aol.com wleathus@yahoo.com
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