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Volume 28 : Issue 321 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: 'Sexting' popular among teens
  Re: 'Sexting' popular among teens
  Re: no longer Direct dial long distance
  Jamaica running out of phone numbers
  Re: Jamaica running out of phone numbers
  FCC now planning "all-IP" phone transition
  Re: FCC now planning "all-IP" phone transition
  Re: Time Warner Cable Takes Firm Stance on Carriage Deals
  Re:  Old Caller ID Info on New Provider Caller ID
  A new scam? "Congratulations! This is your lucky day, ..."


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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:15:49 GMT From: sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com (David Kaye) To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: 'Sexting' popular among teens Message-ID: <hfih45$4fs$3@news.eternal-september.org> kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: > This sort of thing was going on when I was a teenager, quite a few > decades ago. It's just that cellphones didn't exist yet, and all > anyone had were Polaroids and the US Mail. And back then you had to > count to thirty after pulling the tab, separate the negative and > positive, and spread the coater on the print surface.... Ah, Polaroids! Those were all the rage when I was a kid. I saw lots of nude Polaroid photos, some of friends, but most of the girl (and sometimes boy) down the street from a party or whatever, when I was in high school. In fact, the name Polaroid became synonymous with naked photo. "Do you have any Polaroids of her?" meant "Do you have any naked photos of her?" As I developed my own photos I never owned a Polaroid camera. I produced my own collection of photos, though. It was amazing how many people would pose for photos, too. So, sexting and cell phone photos are nothing new at all.
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:16:51 GMT From: sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com (David Kaye) To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: 'Sexting' popular among teens Message-ID: <hfih62$4fs$4@news.eternal-september.org> T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> wrote: > > And where was this darkroom? The local Boys Club. The local Catholic high school I attended had a better darkroom than I had at home, so most of the naked photos I took were developed there...
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:39:05 -0500 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: no longer Direct dial long distance Message-ID: <op.u4j7nfico63xbg@acer250.gateway.2wire.net> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:55:36 -0500, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: >>> ... If you use the services of One Suite http://www.onesuite.com > >> Thanks, Joseph, for this pointer to an interesting competitor to >> the IDT dial-around service I use for international calling and >> international access, and to the MagicJack. >> >> Alas, no matter how hard I search on their web site, I find no mention >> of their outbound tariffs to Poland, or roaming tariffs from Poland. > > Odd, I clicked the RATES tab on the home page, picked Poland from the > Destination Country list, and in a few moments it told me that the > local origination dial-around and VoIP rates are both 4.5cpm to > land-lines, 29cpm to mobile. That's pretty good for local origination > dial-around, good but not great for VoIP. 800 origination dial-around > is 9.5 and 34cpm, OK for 800 origination but you can do better. > > R's, > John Harrumpph! Browser shenanigans again. I did as you suggested, in Opera v. 10, opening the OneSuite site cited in the quote, and clicking the RATES tab, and there was no drop-down list of destination countries to be seen. But: Tried the same thing in IE7, and .. lo and behold .. a drop-down list, where Opera showed just blank space. (Rates outbound to Poland just as you quoted.) But, even with IE7, there's no Poland in the "Originating Country" list :-{ . Oh, well ... . [I really have to back my Opera install back down to v. 9.64 if I can: v. 10 just seems to have problems with sites (like hotmail.com or the Google gMail site) that v. 9.64 handled with no issues at all.] Thanks, John, and cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:44:08 -0600 From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Jamaica running out of phone numbers Message-ID: <6645152a0912070644v68b01b78x59075a26e57d4d7e@mail.gmail.com> Mobile number portability was not, up to a few months ago, in the immediate plans of the Office of Utilities Regulations (OUR) but is now a priority issue, as Jamaica prepares to apply to the North American Numbering Plan (NANP) for a new batch of codes. Jamaica was assigned eight million usable numbers in 1997, but is now down to one million, according to Maurice Charvis, OUR deputy director general, due largely to the growth in the mobile market. More here: http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20091120/business/business3.html -- John Mayson <john@mayson.us> Austin, Texas, USA
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:17:28 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Jamaica running out of phone numbers Message-ID: <hfk9f8$ndq$4@news.albasani.net> John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote: > Mobile number portability was not, up to a few months ago, in the > immediate plans of the Office of Utilities Regulations (OUR) but is > now a priority issue, as Jamaica prepares to apply to the North > American Numbering Plan (NANP) for a new batch of codes. > Jamaica was assigned eight million usable numbers in 1997, but is > now down to one million, according to Maurice Charvis, OUR deputy > director general, due largely to the growth in the mobile market. > More here: > http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20091120/business/business3.html Jamaica has 2.7 million people, about the size of Chicago. Can they prove that the 876 allocations were done efficiently without number portability? Of course not. But then, this hasn't prevented NANPA from assigning new area codes anywhere else. I'd like to suggest that they get assigned 872.
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:46:58 -0600 From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: FCC now planning "all-IP" phone transition Message-ID: <6645152a0912070646u7ab8f525v78153fcfe96b5623@mail.gmail.com> If you thought that the digital TV transition, with its billion-dollar coupon program for converter boxes, was a migration nightmare, wait until it's time for the phone system to dump its legacy circuit-switched system and move to an all-IP communications network. That day could be coming sooner than you think; the Federal Communications Commission has just requested comment on its planning for the transition. More here: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/12/fcc-plans-for-death-of-circuit-switched-phone-networks.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss Or here: http://z.mayson.us/dlufy John -- John Mayson <john@mayson.us> Austin, Texas, USA ***** Moderator's Note ***** The FCC isn't planning any transition to IP telephony. What it is planning is to show the Congress that it should be careful whose bureaucratic ox it tries to gore. Congress dictated progress. The FCC is sabotaging the idea, publicly and crudely, in order to teach capitol hill just who is in charge of the phone network. As soon as the "comments" have been received, the FCC will report to Congress that it is "making progress" and then shelve the whole thing. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:07:01 -0800 (PST) From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: FCC now planning "all-IP" phone transition Message-ID: <f48a8205-4c0b-4801-99e8-5bd679e8bc6b@g7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> On Dec 7, 9:46 am, John Mayson <j...@mayson.us> wrote: > If you thought that the digital TV transition, with its billion-dollar > coupon program for converter boxes, was a migration nightmare, wait > until it's time for the phone system to dump its legacy > circuit-switched system and move to an all-IP communications network. > That day could be coming sooner than you think; the Federal > Communications Commission has just requested comment on its planning > for the transition. What would be costs of such a transition? How much conversion would be required in the local loop plant, especially in older areas? How much in central offices such as in the cable vault to convert analog loop lines to IP digital? FIOS requires every subscriber to provide their own power and have a battery backup. Right there is an additional cost to the subscriber. While I'd say the number of traditional Western Electric sets (ie 2500, 2554) out there aren't too many, there is a huge number of more modern analog sets that are not compatible with IP. Unlike broadcast television, where most subscribers were already using cable TV delivery, not over the air, far more people will require converters. Further, conversion will be a nuisance since commercial power would be needed. Who is gonna pay for all that? After that is done, what will the benefits be and who will be the beneficiaries. I can't help but suspect, given tech history, ordinary subscribers will pay more and get less. Specialized subscribers who will benefit will lobby hard for this.
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:52:36 EST From: Wesrock@aol.com To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Time Warner Cable Takes Firm Stance on Carriage Deals Message-ID: <d65.409315e5.384efd54@aol.com> In reply to: <_MPG.25852b48e05dfce6989bf8@news.eternal-september.org_ (mailto:MPG.25852b48e05dfce6989bf8@news.eternal-september.org) > In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.0912051605100.15674@panix5.panix.com>, dannyb@panix.com says... > In the good old daze of "One Bell System - It Works", the local > operating companies used to justify their need for higher rates > because... they had to pay more for the physical instruments. > > That is, Western Electric, a division of AT&T, was charging > the local RBOC, another division of AT&T, more... As a former Bell employee, I have to disagree with that. Many Bell employees thought WE prices were about normal or high. So when we acquired two independent company offices with Stromberg-Carlson XY switches and a few years later need an addition, they assumed Sromger's prices would be in about the same range and wrote estimates on the basis of XY additions. When they got quotations from Stromberg, they found the Stromberg prices were so much higher that they could scrap the old office and replace in its entirety with a WE step-by-step offices, including the cost of new buildings in both places, for less cost than Stromberg-Carlson would charge just for the additional XY equipment. Wes Leatherock wesrock@aol.com wleathus@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 01:26:54 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Old Caller ID Info on New Provider Caller ID Message-ID: <hfka0u$ndq$5@news.albasani.net> Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com> wrote: > I recently switched from one VOIP provider to another. > With the old provider, the name of the company showed up in the name > field of the caller ID box when I would call someone. > With the new provider, my name was supposed to pop up on the caller > ID when I would call someone. > I've had two of my friends tell me that the name of my old VOIP > provider was popping up when I call them. I called my new provider > and asked them about it. > They invested and told me that it was in the 'cache' of the > destination phone company and until they cleared it in their system, > it would continue to pop up this way. > Anyone care to expand upon this? This seems weird. One would think > that they would display the name sent by the originating provider. I went through this with Comcast. When I called a telephone line provisioned by Comcast, the wrong name showed up. Comcast refused to purge its cache, even though I requested it. I'll guess that the reason is what Danny said, that it would result in them having to pay for another database dip. Comcast insisted on creating the name record in its own database, which they aren't supposed to do. There's something about number porting that doesn't result in the usual "line disconnected" notice from the original phone company to all the other databases that they notify. Just got an automated call the other day from the delivery side of the "official" phone book publisher, thinking that my ported number was still a main land line telephone number.
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:43:49 -0500 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: A new scam? "Congratulations! This is your lucky day, ..." Message-ID: <op.u4li3bg3o63xbg@acer250.gateway.2wire.net> What in the world is happening here? Again today, for the third time in my +1-203 at&t territory, an 800 number I dialed fetched up with a telephone company "number has changed" interrupt informing me of the "new number" (today, as 1-800-712-5000). At the new number I meet the greeting in the "Subject:" line, followed by an urgent sales pitch offered by a very enthusiastic mini-skirted-high-school-cheer-leader voice. I hang up, dial my intended 800 number again, and get through to the party I originally intended. OK: the first time something like that happened to me, several weeks ago, I had, to be honest, misread the number I wanted, hence misdialed. The second time I'm pretty sure I had dialed correctly. On today's occasion, I'm certain I dialed correctly, as I was looking at the number's listing in my phone book as I was dialing. So, again: what's going on? Is at&t selling randomly selected failed-call-completion moments to nefarious telephone marketers? Or what? Cheers, -- tlvp
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