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  Re: Google Voice and Reciprocal Compensation on NPR 
  Re: Area code 533 assigned for personal communications services   
  Re: Classic phone booth still in service 

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:59:52 +0000 From: Peter R Cook <PCook@wisty.plus.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Google Voice and Reciprocal Compensation on NPR Message-ID: <LlHeRlFI5I9KFwZH@wisty.plus.com> In message <6a3e9b05-e67c-4291-aec8-efe3c72668f6@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, www.Queensbridge.us <NOTvalid@Queensbridge.us> writes >On Nov 2, 8:44 am, "har...@hallikainen.com" <har...@hallikainen.com> >wrote: >> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114341718 >> >> ***** Moderator's Note ***** >> >> This is a good introduction to the ways that the reciprocal >> compensation rules can be used to benefit certain classes of >> traffic. CLECs are incentivized to serve "receive only" lines, i.e., >> lines which seldom make outgoing calls, so as to tip the compensation >> rules in their favor. Since the terminating company gets paid by the >> IEC, CLECs with a lot of conference-call or "chat room" or other >> customers who answer lots of calls, but make very few, can turn a >> profit. >> >> Google, which is in the awkward position of having almost all >> "originating" traffic, must pay the higher rates which some rural >> ILEC/CLECs are allowed to charge for terminating calls. >> >> Bill Horne >> Moderator > > Why doesn't Google Voice charge a toll to those changes? > > Even if it determined that they are a phone company, there is no law > that says that free service has to be given to all customers for all > calls. That would imply Google voice implemented a rating/billing system. Given that a very significant proportion (50%?) of a conventional telco's operating costs are associated with call data capture, rating, billing and collection activities, it would destroy their business model to implement such a system for a limited set of numbers. -- Peter R Cook
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Area code 533 assigned for personal communications services Message-ID: <414748.60223.qm@web52703.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:44:03 -0800 Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> wrote: > In the USA, there is no way to tell whether a particular number in > your area code is a cell phone, especially considering number > portability, where you can have your land-line number re-assigned to a > cell phone. Actually, there is a way to tell if a number is a mobile number or a regular number. Go to https://www.wirelessamberalerts.org/index.jsp and input a 10-digit number. The result will either give the name of the mobile operating company or you'll get an error message that the number you have input is not a wireless number. If you wish to see who holds that numbering space go to http://www.telcodata.us. It even lists down to 'thousands' block in the numbering. It's still possible that the number could have been ported to another entity e.g. it was held by the ILEC and then transferred to the CLEC or vice versa.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:59:22 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Classic phone booth still in service Message-ID: <327051.35227.qm@web52708.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:44:03 -0800 (PST) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > I saw a classic telephone booth today, still in service. It had the > folding door, light, fan with switch, small seat, small table, and a > directory (and of course a phone). > It was located in the waiting room of the Princeton NJ train station > (note--not the Princeton Jct station). The waiting room is only > open weekday mornings. Actually, there's a whole row of phone booths with ledge seats and bi-fold doors in the HUB (Husky Union Building) at the University of Washington in Seattle. Didn't check but it used to be a requirement of pay phones in Washington Qwest territory that directories would be provided (not surprising since DA from coin phones has always cost here).
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