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  Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology 
  Caller ID Device 
  Re: Google Voice and Reciprocal Compensation on NPR 

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:11:34 -0800 From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology Message-ID: <rzEIm.2515$de6.584@newsfe21.iad> Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote: > >>Adam H. Kerman wrote: > > > >>>>Does AT&T provide LEC service in Illinois? > > > >>>Yes. But their phone book publishing subsidiary doesn't publish the >>>phone books. Reuben H. Donnelley is the business listings publisher >>>and the directories are a joint venture. > > >>Do you know where in Illinois AT&T provides LEC service? I presume it >>was not Ameritech territory. One, or more, independents? > > > Can you please be more specific with your question: ILEC or CLEC? > Post-divestiture AT&T or SBC-renamed-AT&T? > > Illinois Bell/Ameritech/SBC was the ILEC in nearly all of Chicago and > suburbs and major downstate cities like Rockford, Springfield, some of the > Illinois side of the Quad Cities, and a lot of the Illinois side of the > St. Louis metropolitan area. > > Post-divestiture AT&T was a CLEC when it was in the cable tv business, but > those customers are now Comcast subscribers. AT&T was also a CLEC unrelated > to cable television, apparently in non-cable areas, but I don't know what > period that was in. > > But CLECs don't have telephone book publishing subsidiaries for the > communities they serve, so I'm lost on what you are getting at. > Thanks. I didn't know that SBC had taken over Ameritech.
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:15:30 -0800 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Caller ID Device Message-ID: <hcvtbm$bfr$1@news.eternal-september.org> A while back I asked about a device that allows blocking numbers using CID, much like the old Radio Shack CID did. I lost the site address. -- The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:01:12 -0800 (PST) From: "www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTvalid@Queensbridge.us> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Google Voice and Reciprocal Compensation on NPR Message-ID: <6a3e9b05-e67c-4291-aec8-efe3c72668f6@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> On Nov 2, 8:44 am, "har...@hallikainen.com" <har...@hallikainen.com> wrote: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114341718 > > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > This is a good introduction to the ways that the reciprocal > compensation rules can be used to benefit certain classes of > traffic. CLECs are incentivized to serve "receive only" lines, i.e., > lines which seldom make outgoing calls, so as to tip the compensation > rules in their favor. Since the terminating company gets paid by the > IEC, CLECs with a lot of conference-call or "chat room" or other > customers who answer lots of calls, but make very few, can turn a > profit. > > Google, which is in the awkward position of having almost all > "originating" traffic, must pay the higher rates which some rural > ILEC/CLECs are allowed to charge for terminating calls. > > Bill Horne > Moderator Why doesn't Google Voice charge a toll to those changes? Even if it determined that they are a phone company, there is no law that says that free service has to be given to all customers for all calls.
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