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  Re: History of AT&T Mail [TELECOM]
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====== 27 years of TELECOM Digest -- Founded August 21, 1981 ====== Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address- included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the email. =========================== Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without explicit written consent. Chain letters, viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome. We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands against crime. Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer, and other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 03:08:46 GMT From: tlvp <> To: Subject: Re: History of AT&T Mail [TELECOM] Message-ID: <> John Mayson wrote: > When I was in college in the late 1980's I worked for AT&T as a co-op > student. During my second quarter I was given the task of rolling out > AT&T Mail to our site and training people how to use it. At the time > I thought the service was pretty neat. It had email-to-fax and > email-to-snail-mail gateways. It was used mostly by AT&T, but the > service was available to the public and I found the governor of > Kentucky listed in the directory. It didn't take me long to realize I > could send email to from my school account, which raised > a few eyebrows about me "hacking into AT&T Mail". When it came time > to graduate I had promised myself I would get an AT&T Mail account if > my future employer did not have Internet access (turns out they did). > > I was reminiscing about the service, so I visited Google and Wikipedia > trying to find information. I cannot find anything. The search terms > bring up information about today's at&t email service via their DSL > service or really old archives containing messages from people with > email addresses. Perhaps I'm the only person on the > planet who thinks this topic is interesting, but in case I'm not, does > anyone have more information about AT&T Mail? Until my last move I > still had all of my manuals, but they're long gone. I want to create > a Wikipedia entry. I believe AT&T Mail was as significant as > Compuserve or Prodigy. > > John I still pine for both AT&T Mail and MCI Mail. For what it's worth, I believe I still retain a copy of Vint Cerf's final, wistful, shut-down/farewell message, sent to all remaining MCI Mail customers sometime within the last few hours before the plug got pulled, and can try to dig it out and post it here, if desired. Cheers, -- tlvp (still encumbered with *both* services' manuals :-) ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:13:40 -0400 From: MC <> To: Subject: Re: History of AT&T Mail [TELECOM] Message-ID: <cXaxl.18683$> wrote: >> ***** Moderator's Note ***** > 4) Social correspondence--cheap telephony has killed off what was left > of this, but the Internet is finishing the job. This year, with > things rushed, I couldn't get and send out birthday cards to some > friends, but sent an email instead. Tacky, but did the job. > The web allows sharing of family pictures electronically instead of > mailing prints. Actually even e-mail and web pages are passť. My daughter received a wedding invitation, and then notification that the wedding was called off, via (I think) Facebook. I am not on Facebook. Whatever they do there, they're going to do without me. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:50:24 -0500 From: Jim Haynes <> To: Subject: Re: History of AT&T Mail [TELECOM] Message-ID: <slrngsao95.3tq.haynes@localhost.localdomain> On 2009-03-20, <> wrote: > A related question is: When did email--using today's standards-- > begin? That is, when did people get email addresses of "PERSON@SITE" > and there was an Internet capable of routing such messages to the > appropriate site. I believe the person@site style of addressing goes back to the Arpanet, so you could research it in the Request For Comments RFC archives. Originally there was a hosts table that related site names to IP addresses. Around the same time that Arpanet was turning into the Internet there was the beginning of the Domain Name System with the now-familiar hierarchical dotted site names and the name servers that replaced the hosts table. These are related because the Arpanet was small enough for the hosts table to be maintained and centrally administered; but when the Internet was opened up to many more users it became impossible to maintain the name->address mapping as a table. I once wrote a piece comparing the domain name system with the telephone information operator system as it was back then. Your local information operator had numbers for your area code, and would ask you "what city?". If you needed a number for a distant area code you had to dial that area code before the information number. And then much earlier than that the information operation was even less centralized, so that each city or exchange would have its own information operators. ***** Moderator's Note ***** I never forget the day that I saw a letter cart filled to overflowing with DNS requests in Jon Postel's office, with a sign on it that said "I'm giving up control!" - I asked him what it was, of course, and he told me that everyone had finally convinced him that DNS had grown too large for him to manage personally. Only the good die young. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:55:54 -0500 From: Jim Haynes <> To: Subject: Re: Western Union public fax services, 1960 Message-ID: <slrngsaojg.3tq.haynes@localhost.localdomain> It's interesting that the founders of FedEx discovered and filled a market niche for overnight delivery of things that can't be faxed. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:55:42 GMT From: "Tony Toews \[MVP\]" <> To: Subject: Re: History of AT&T Mail [TELECOM] Message-ID: <> John Mayson <> wrote: In about 1989 or so I knew email was going to be a good thing. I was then accessing Compuserve and local BBSs. I talked to Telus, the then provincial telco and was able to get an X.400 email address with which I experimented sending email to the Compuservice account and so forth. Both CompuServe and this X.400 service was available via the X.25 packet network accessible at the blistering speed of 2400 bps. But there was no one else available to email to so I dropped it. Expensive at about $50 per month IIRC. I may have used an X.400 to fax gateway to send a fax for a small contest involving the person who was the furthest away to send a fax. I won. However the prize was a roll of fax paper so that was quite useless to me. Tony -- Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can read the entire thread of messages. Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecom- munications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to Usenet, where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. 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