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  Re: Technical Demo turns political 2/26/1909 
  John M. Fraser 1916-2009
  2 phone numers on one landline? (Slightly OT) 
  AT&T adds thousands of jobs 

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We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands against crime. Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer, and other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:38:38 +1100 From: David Clayton <> To: Subject: Re: Technical Demo turns political 2/26/1909 Message-ID: <> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:50:12 -0400, Gene S. Berkowitz wrote: > In article <gp0mrp$fvk$>, says... > >> There are also big cities with huge amounts of undocumented >> infrastructure under the streets, where the excavation has to be done by >> hand and the cable laid a foot at the time to prevent disturbing other >> services. >> --scott > > > Thank goodness that those cities should soon have a steady supply of > bankers and stock brokers, who, with patient training, can be taught which > end of the shovel to hold. > And who would have trouble working in an iron lung, given their previous experience of "work". They could be employed in an area more suited to their abilities, I believe that Speed Humps are still in demand...... -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:15:20 -0700 From: Jane Fraser <> To: Subject: John M. Fraser 1916-2009 The following may be of interest to readers of the Telecom Digest. - Jane M. Fraser John M. Fraser, 92, died in his sleep March 2, 2009, in San Diego, CA. Mr. Fraser was born in Glasgow, Scotland, grew up in Brooklyn, NY, and resided in Whippany, NJ; Brielle, NJ; Rancho Palos Verdes, CA; Ramona, CA; and San Diego, CA. Mr. Fraser graduated from Brooklyn Technical High School and received his Bachelor's of Electrical Engineering from the Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn. He was a member of Eta Kappa Nu, Sigma Xi, and Tau Beta Pi. Mr. Fraser was employed for 39 years by Bell Telephone Laboratories, where he was involved in many systems engineering projects including the first transatlantic telephone cable, TAT-1, and one of the earliest speech compression systems, TASI. He then joined Hughes Aircraft, where, as Chief Scientist, he was the chief architect of the Indonesian satellite system, Palapa. He represented AT&T and subsequently Hughes at CCITT, the international body that establishes standards for communication systems. Mr. Fraser believed strongly in giving more than taxes to the communities in which he lived. In Whippany, NJ, he served as chair of the planning board, member of the Hanover Township Governing Board, and mayor. In Brielle, NJ, he served as chair of the planning board and member of the Borough Governing Council. In Ramona, CA, he served as chair of the Environmental Control Committee of San Diego Country Estates. In San Diego, CA, he was the first president of the Meridian Residential Association. Mr. Fraser is survived by his wife, Helen E. Fraser of San Diego and his daughter Jane M. Fraser, Ph.D., Chair of the Department of Engineering at Colorado State University-Pueblo (and her partner Mark A. Weber). He was predeceased by his first wife, Jean C. Fraser, and his daughter Carol Fraser Fisk, who served as the US Commissioner on Aging during the Reagan administration. He had recently completed his autobiography, Muddling Through. According to his wishes, he was cremated and there will be no service. Donations may be sent to the John M. Fraser Engineering Scholarship, Colorado State University-Pueblo, 2200 Bonforte Blvd., Pueblo, CO, 81001. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:40:15 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Subject: 2 phone numers on one landline? (Slightly OT) Message-ID: <> Is it possible for Ma Bell to provide me service for 2 numbers on one phone line? The reason is that we are consolidating at one location and would like to keep both phones. The phone rep said the only way would be installing another line at the new location - something the landlord does not permit. The other option I have is to port the number to my cellphone but I the phone rep could not guarantee me that there would be no downtime in the dsl service if I were to do this since the cell provider is tmobile. Does anyone have any insight on how to convince ATT to configure their switch to route 2 numbers to the same line Thanks, /chi ***** Moderator's Note ***** Here are some of your options: 1. Make the second line a "virtual" number, which forwards to your real line. Here in Verizon territory, this is called Remote Call Forwarding. 2. Port the second line to a VoIP provider, and use your DSL connection for it. 3. Switch to ISDN service, which can provide two separate call paths on a single pair. It tends to be pricey, but you'll have full use of both lines at your new location. I don't know if this will work with ADSL. 4. Leave the second line where it is, and forward it to your other number. You'll need to make a deal with the old landlord and/or new tenant at the old location. 5. Tell the new landlord you want an exception to the rule. 6. Do some midnight rewiring at your new site. Bill Horne Temporary Moderator ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:43:22 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Subject: AT&T adds thousands of jobs Message-ID: <> ABC News reported tonight that at&t will add a few thousand jobs in its wireless and broadband units. This is of course welcome news these days. But I strongly doubt the jobs will be as good as jobs once offered in the old Bell System. I can't help but suspect any jobs dealing with the public will be on commission with demands for aggressive sales goals. I'm not optimistic about the technical jobs either. Hopefully I am wrong about this. If anyone is familiar with the internal corporate culture at today's at&t your comments would be appreciated. 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