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  Re: "Broadband" (was Obama's Broadband Plan) 
  Re: termination fees, Any user reviews of the Magic Jack? 
  Vital Signs - A Note to the Wise on MySpace Helps
  Teenagers' Internet Socializing Not a Bad Thing
  Re: Restoring a 302-type telephone 

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:21:38 +1100
From: David Clayton <>
Subject: Re: "Broadband" (was Obama's Broadband Plan) 
Message-ID: <1231629698.7077.11.camel@localhost>

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 02:20:52AM +0000, David Clayton wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:18:06 -0500, Neal McLain wrote:
>  > David Clayton asked:
>  > Can someone remind me when the term "Broadband" - which is a
>  > *specific* description of a particular usage of technology - was
>  > co-opted to then cover any sort of high- speed Internet service?...
> "Broadband" was used by the cable TV industry as far back as the
> mid-1970s, long before the internet existed. My first job in cable TV
> was in Madison, Wisconsin.  The city's circa-1974 cable TV ordinance was
> grandly called "The Broadband Telecommunications Franchise Enabling
> Ordinance."  The "broadband" network that resulted had a capacity of 12
> TV channels plus the FM band.  There wasn't enough programming available
> to fill even that much capacity.
Which is my point, "Broadband" is using disparate services on a common 
medium and can be used to provide high-speed Internet, but it is not 
every single way of providing a data link with speeds greater than an old 
voice band modem.

ADSL *is* Broadband because it has the Voice service as well as the Data 
service on the same pair of wires - and the operation of either one is 
not dependant on the other. As soon as only xDSL is on that cable, it is 
no longer "Broadband" but "Baseband" as the one service uses the media.
Using "Broadband" to describe any (and - apparently - every) high-speed 
Internet service is technically incorrect and really just giving into
convenience at the expense of accuracy when propagated by those who
should know better.
I laugh whenever those with supposedly technical credentials (I forgive
the politicians, they only say what they are told to) start spouting
about the future of "Broadband" and mention various non-ADSL
technologies, if these people can't get the basic language correct
what hope have they of actually building highly technical
infrastructure that relies on getting  everything right?

Regards, David.
David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.


Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:55:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Singer <>
Subject: Re: termination fees, Any user reviews of the Magic Jack? 
Message-ID: <>

9 Jan 2009 23:07:13 -0000 John Levine <> wrote:

     <<For the major telcos, it is now very low, a small fraction of a cent
     per minute.  There's still rural LECs who get multi-cent payments, but
     give or take the occasional "free" international forwarding or
     conference service, their share of the traffic is tiny.

     It's pretty common to find flat rate long distance plans from telcos
     for $20/mo, or the equivalent bundled into an overall plan.  You can
     easily find prepaid calling cards charging 1cpm or less.>>

The problem is with those "1cpm" calling cards is that they have lots
of "gotchas" if you use 'em.  Many have per call connection charges
sometimes as much as 50 cents.  And many of them hang on various fees
such as weekly "maintenance" fees as well as other fees.  You'll see
these low rate calling cards advertised in convenience stores
especially with imigrant population users.  Below the "low rate"
featured there will be a laundry list of conditions and fees that help
to negate any real savings you could possibly have.  As mentioned they
will also charge exorbitant amounts for public phone access if only
because they can (same rationalization that the mobile operators
charge 20 cents per message for text messages if you are calling á
la carte and don't have a messaging plan.


Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:35:21 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <>
Subject: Vital Signs - A Note to the Wise on MySpace Helps
Message-ID: <p06240804c58f34d21b87@[]>

Vital Signs
A Note to the Wise on MySpace Helps

The New York Times
January 6, 2009

Teenagers often use social networking sites like MySpace to post 
intimate personal information they come to regret, as it lets future 
employers (or online predators) learn about sex activity and 
substance abuse. Enter "Dr. Meg."

When teenagers got a note from "Dr. Meg" warning them about what they 
had posted, many thought twice about their postings, a new study says.

Dr. Meg was Dr. Megan A. Moreno, the lead author of two studies about 
networking sites in the January issue of Archives of Pediatrics and 
Adolescent Medicine.


Display of Health Risk Behaviors on MySpace by Adolescents (Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine)

Reducing At-Risk Adolescents' Display of Risk Behavior on a Social
Networking Web Site (Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine)


Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:38:11 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <>
Subject: Teenagers' Internet Socializing Not a Bad Thing
Message-ID: <p06240805c58f35bf5313@[]>

Teenagers' Internet Socializing Not a Bad Thing

The New York Times
November 20, 2008

Good news for worried parents: All those hours their teenagers spend 
socializing on the Internet are not a bad thing, according to a new 
study by the MacArthur Foundation.

"It may look as though kids are wasting a lot of time hanging out 
with new media, whether it's on MySpace or sending instant messages," 
said Mizuko Ito, lead researcher on the study, "Living and Learning 
With New Media." "But their participation is giving them the 
technological skills and literacy they need to succeed in the 
contemporary world. They're learning how to get along with others, 
how to manage a public identity, how to create a home page."

The study, conducted from 2005 to last summer, describes new-media 
usage but does not measure its effects.


Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:42:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Wes Leatherock <>
Subject: Re: Restoring a 302-type telephone 
Message-ID: <>

On Thursday, January 8, 2009 10:44 PM wrote:
> On Thursday, Jan 1, 5:50 pm, Wes Leatherock 
> <> wrote:

>>       Around 1950 I lived in a city (Konawa, Okla.) where telephone
>> had either three or four digits.  Area codes were just being
>> introduced and mostly for operators.  Most of the public had never
>> heard of "area code" nor knew what the term meant.
>>       That was near the twilight days of 302 telephones.

> As the 500 set was only introduced in 1950, it took quite a bit of
> time for it to replace existing 302 sets in service.  (A family member
> had one until they rennovated their house).  I suspect the Bell System
> continued installing 302 sets well into the 1950s.  Some were placed
> in a pseudo-500 body and called a 5302.

The conversion to the 5302 was intended to extend the life of the
then-existing inventory for the many customers who objected to the 
(by then) "old fashioned" 302 sets.

> In 1970 it was not unusual to find a 302 or 354 (wall) set in a home.
> In the 1950s, even into the 1960s, many smaller towns had five digit
> numbers.  They got a seven digit ANC number to be addressable by DDD,
> but for local use continued with five digits (into the 1980s until ESS
> came along).  Those places obviously never had a named exchange.
> But larger towns and cities did have named exchanges, some seven
> digits, a few six digits.  Those names appeared on the number card.
> In the older days the full name appeared, with the dialable letters in
> capitals, often several points bigger than the rest of the name.  In
> later days for places that didn't go ANC, often only the two letters
> appeared with the area code.

Dallas, and I believe Houston, had five-digit numbers.  Displayed as
one letter and four numerals.  Where I worked in Dallas in the 1950s,
the number was Riverside-4085, dialed as R-4085.

Wes Leatherock


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