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Message Digest Volume 28 : Issue 3 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Cell Phones and Driving: Research Update Re: Reduced spam and increased security infrastructure? ====== 27 years of TELECOM Digest -- Founded August 21, 1981 ====== Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address- included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the email. =========================== Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without explicit written consent. Chain letters, viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome. We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands against crime. Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer, and other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:58:18 -0500 From: "MC" <> To: Subject: Re: Cell Phones and Driving: Research Update Message-ID: <GOL7l.1960$> "Dave Garland" <> wrote in message news:FvudnViYi_RI3MPUnZ2dnUVZ_tLinZ2d@posted.visi... > Sam Spade wrote: > >> The other factor is driver training, experience, and discipline at >> conducting communications while operating a vechicle. Police do it >> all the time as do others in public safety. So do professional >> aircraft pilots. > > But note that those people conduct short, ritualized transactions over > the radio. The cop is not negotiating with his daughter who wants to > get a tattoo, and the aircraft pilot is not talking to his pissed-off > wife. The fire engine driver is not talking to his grandmother or > drinking buddy. > > I don't think there is any way to generalize on-the-job public safety > communications to the general public's telephone calls, even when the > general public is that same cop or pilot. Exactly. Traditional 2-way-radio communication is snappy, serves limited predefined purposes, and is done with full acknowledgement that at least one of the people is driving. Traditional telephone conversation expects a person's full attention. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:16:54 -0600 From: Dave Garland <> To: Subject: Re: Reduced spam and increased security infrastructure? Message-ID: <DtydnUN9BfMzkP3UnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@posted.visi> Dan Lanciani wrote: > (Dave Garland) wrote: > |Credit bureaus sell > |information about you... Make them liable for damages if you are harmed in > |any way by their sale of untrue information. > > While I certainly have no objection to such a rule, it does nothing > to help the "identify theft" problem where the credit bureau provides > true information about the victim... The "theft" problem is more properly a problem of negligence in properly identifying someone when issuing them credit. So the perp claims he's you, runs up big bills, and doesn't pay them. That's really not much of a problem for you, until the credit bureau starts telling people it was you who ran up the bills, thus affecting your credit. If they were liable for the truthfulness of the information, you'd have recourse. (They could, of course, contract with businesses who report to them, that those business would reimburse them for any claims due to the falsehood of the reports.) Say, for your losses because you could not get telephone service. Dave ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecomm- unications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to Usenet, where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. All the contents of the Digest are compilation-copyrighted. You may reprint articles in some other media on an occasional basis, but please attribute my work and that of the original author. The Telecom Digest is currently being moderated by Bill Horne while Pat Townson recovers from a stroke. 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