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| Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 13:20:31 -0400
From: Pete Cresswell <PeteCress@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Caller ID is my own name/number?
Message-ID: <poukjahbaeqe04g9opq716oj52osmkgr67@4ax.com>
Per Bill Horne:
>Well, I am not a lawyer, so I can't argue the law. However, I doubt
>that the current law(s) have any meaningful teeth in them, or the
>problem wouldn't be occuring.
The lame-sounding letters I get from the Pennsylvania Att'y General's
office explaining why they can't do anything about No-Call List
violations any more all cite movement to offshore locations and use of
VOIP by telemarketers.
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Pete Cresswell
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| Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 00:13:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: David Scheidt <dscheidt@panix.com>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Caller ID is my own name/number?
Message-ID: <mhem6f$54t$2@reader1.panix.com>
John Reiser <jreiserfl@comcast.net> wrote:
:>> [fake CallerID] is ALREADY against the law. What can passing more laws accomplish?
:>>
:>> Specifically, the Truth in Caller ID Act of 2009, aka Public Law
:>> 111-331
:By itself, soliciting to induce a sale of goods or services is not fraud,
:does not cause harm, nor seek to obtain wrongfully something of value;
:and thus is not prohibited by that law. Often it is called "advertising."
Sending me fake CID so I answer the phone obtains something of value:
my time.
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| Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:07:39 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Google Removes Illustration of Android Robot Urinating on the Apple Logo in Google Maps
Message-ID: <78F4B703-2E0E-4233-B981-E9C28357E2B2@roscom.com>
Google Removes Illustration of Android Robot Urinating on the Apple
Logo in Google Maps
http://time.com/3834979/android-robot-apple-logo-google-maps/
***** Moderator's Note *****
It's Saturday. It's sunny. I can't resist.
Bill Horne
Moderator
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| Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:45:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Caller ID is my own name/number?
Message-ID: <b7ee1217-22ad-46db-84bc-803ec3f7884f@googlegroups.com>
On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 12:03:47 PM UTC-4, Denver Gingerich wrote:
> To be fair, we haven't determined whether the OP was called by someone
> "with the intent to defraud, cause harm, or wrongfully obtain anything
> of value". Once we determine that, then we know if the call was
> illegal.
Actually, by providing a false caller-ID, the caller indeed act wrongly.
A business that posts a sign "established" 1965 when in fact the business
is only a year old is lying. It may be a minor lie, but it still is a
false statement of fact.
* * * * *
On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 12:03:47 PM UTC-4, John Reiser wrote:
> By itself, soliciting to induce a sale of goods or services is not fraud,
> does not cause harm, nor seek to obtain wrongfully something of value;
> and thus is not prohibited by that law. Often it is called "advertising."
Actually, telephone soliciting in violation of the Do Not Call laws is
indeed illegal.
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| Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 13:22:12 -0400
From: Pete Cresswell <PeteCress@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Caller ID is my own name/number?
Message-ID: <dtukjap55a526ucbckbacjk1s8uaq1q50d@4ax.com>
Per Elmo P. Shagnasty:
>I use Viatalk VoIP. Its control panel allows me to deal with inbound
>calls in a variety of ways.
>
>Whenever I get a scammer, I immediately go in and have that number
>redirected to my US senator's office.
>
>Should they call again, they'll go to him, not me.
That, I like !.....
How many button presses/keystrokes does it take per call?
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Pete Cresswell
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