---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <41oyvs8e041t.9lokctlml9rj.dlg@40tude.net> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:50:02 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> Subject: Old copper loop and high-speed data ... Nokia and others are proposing broad-spectrum high-speed data over copper: <wwwzdnet.com>: > G.fast ... could soon give your old copper-based connection a fibre-like makeover. ... Amen; and cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20160317180658.GA18786@telecom.csail.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:06:58 -0400 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> Subject: Re: Apple and Justice Dept. Trade Barbs in iPhone Privacy Case On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:47:35PM -0000, David Clayton wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:01:05 -0400, Bill Horne wrote: > ........ > > 3. An employee of that county government used remote-access software > > to reset the password of the iPhone in question. This is common > > practice for devices issued to employees by their employer: most > > companies have the capability, for use when employees forget their > > password, lose their phone, or report it stolen. > > > > A. I do not know if the FBI has access to the password the county > > government which owns the iPhone set by remote control. > > I am not sure that company connected phones have a "password reset" > function. > > I administer Exchange 2007 & 2010 systems that have phones connected and > all I have is the capability to remotely wipe the phone or block it from > use. > > Whenever you connect a phone directly to a corporate e-mail system (that > means not using POP or IMAP) you essentially give up a lot of control of > it to those who administer those systems for the convenience of all the > integrated functions. I think companies which distribute iPhones have the ability to reset passwords via remoate access. They also have the capability to "brick" a phone, but I don't know the specifics, only that it has happened, to BYOD users who didn't realize that they were giving up that much control to their employers. It's logical to expect that remote password-reset capability would be included in the remote-management software, since no employer would want their IT staff working on BYOD hardware directly, and because it would give them the capability to outsource their IT password-reset function, both for BYOD and corporate iPhones. Of course, in the Apple v. FBI matter, the question is whether the IT staff (of the county government which owns the device) acted to reset the password, or to brick the device. If the former, the FBI could ask them for the new password and be done; the later case, however, gets a lot more complicaed, since the FBI won't want to risk turning the phone on outside a Faraday cage, and might even have demanded that the one-of IOS 8 version they want from Apple be written so as to disable any remote software management capability and/or the cellular radio. There are wheels within the wheels here: I think the FBI is trying to brute-force both the password assigned to a single iPhone, and the complicity of U.S. corporations in installing a software version of the "Clipper chip" through a legal back door. It's also possible that both Apple and the FBI are content to get free publicity that makes each appear to be interested in truth, justice, and the American Way - without changing anything. Bill -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my email address to write to me directly) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <nccnq7$4b8$1@dont-email.me> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:47:35 -0000 (UTC) From: David Clayton <dc33box-cdt@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Re: Apple and Justice Dept. Trade Barbs in iPhone Privacy Case On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:01:05 -0400, Bill Horne wrote: ........ > 3. An employee of that county government used remote-access software > to reset the password of the iPhone in question. This is common > practice for devices issued to employees by their employer: most > companies have the capability, for use when employees forget their > password, lose their phone, or report it stolen. > > A. I do not know if the FBI has access to the password the county > government which owns the iPhone set by remote control. > ........ > > Bill > I am not sure that company connected phones have a "password reset" function. I administer Exchange 2007 & 2010 systems that have phones connected and all I have is the capability to remotely wipe the phone or block it from use. Whenever you connect a phone directly to a corporate e-mail system (that means not using POP or IMAP) you essentially give up a lot of control of it to those who administer those systems for the convenience of all the integrated functions. -- Regards, David. David Clayton, e-mail: dc33box-cdt@yahoo.com.au Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have. ------------------------------ ********************************************* End of telecom Digest Fri, 18 Mar 2016