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The Telecom Digest for February 14, 2013
Volume 32 : Issue 39 : "text" Format
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Date: 12 Feb 2013 16:39:39 -0500
From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: The Pentagon And Cyber Defense, Cyber Warnings
Message-ID: <kfecqr$7ok$1@panix2.panix.com>
In article <kf91v0$203v$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu>,
Garrett Wollman <wollman@bimajority.org> wrote:
>In article <5117D8A6.7040005@thorne.net>,
>Fred Goldstein <fgoldstein@remove-this.ionary.com> wrote:
>
>>There is a new internetworking protocol under development, far from the
>>IETF and its TCP/IP fanbois, which addresses these and other problems.
>>It's called RINA, Recursive InterNetworking Architecture.
>
>And it will never be adopted by any substantial user base, despite
>Mr. Goldstein's evangelizing in this newsgroup.
Telecom Digest Moderator wrote:
>Why not?
Because, like or not, we have a huge installed IP base that isn't going to
go away and isn't going to change. IP connectivity is everywhere, and it's
just so incredibly cheap that it's hard to compete with.
Personally I would like to have seen ATM be adopted, if only because it
allows circuit switched and packet switched connections to share the same
channels on a reliable basis with predictable behaviour. But it didn't
really take off because IP was there first.
God, I hate VoIP and all the other attempts to run realtime data over packet
switched systems. But... it's so cheap...
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:51:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: The Pentagon And Cyber Defense, Cyber Warnings
Message-ID: <kfgjrt$1867$1@grapevine.csail.mit.edu>
In article <kfecqr$7ok$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>God, I hate VoIP and all the other attempts to run realtime data over packet
>switched systems. But... it's so cheap...
There's nothing inherent in packet switching that makes it
"non-realtime"; the problem is that all of the technologies that have
been proposed (and I worked on one of them) were too complicated and
didn't squarely address the economic fundamentals of the Internet
providers' businesses. Access providers in particular have no
incentive, abesent a regulator's order, to provide service that would
give their competitors better access to (mostly captive) customers'
homes and small businesses.
-GAWollman
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Garrett A. Wollman | What intellectual phenomenon can be older, or more oft
wollman@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program
Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption
my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:40:21 -0800
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Susan Crawford -- why USA 'Net access is slow, costly, unfair
Message-ID: <511B4365.3070209@thadlabs.com>
Three URLs here regarding the 8-FEB-2013 interview:
the first has background information about Susan Crawford,
the second has the overall summary of the interview along with the
listener/reader comments, and
the third has the full transcript of the interview.
Who is Susan Crawford:
http://billmoyers.com/guest/susan-crawford/
"
" Susan Crawford is a leading telecommunications policy expert and
" professor of communications and Internet law at the Benjamin
" N. Cardozo School of Law. She has held prominent government positions
" as Special Assistant to President Obama for science, technology and
" innovation (2009), and served as co-leader of the FCC transition team
" between the Bush and Obama administrations. Currently, she is a member
" of Mayor Michael Bloomberg's Advisory Council on Technology and
" Innovation.
" [...] more info at above URL
http://billmoyers.com/segment/susan-crawford-on-why-u-s-internet-access-is-slow-costly-and-unfair/
"
" Susan Crawford, former special assistant to President Obama for
" science, technology and innovation, and author of Captive
" Audience: The Telecom Industry and Monopoly Power in the New
" Gilded Age, joins Bill to discuss how our government has allowed
" a few powerful media conglomerates to put profit ahead of the
" public interest -- rigging the rules, raising prices, and stifling
" competition. As a result, Crawford says, all of us are at the
" mercy of the biggest business monopoly since Standard Oil in the
" first Gilded Age a hundred years ago.
"
" "The rich are getting gouged, the poor are very often left out,
" and this means that we're creating, yet again, two Americas, and
" deepening inequality through this communications inequality,"
" Crawford tells Bill.
http://billmoyers.com/wp-content/themes/billmoyers/transcript-print.php?post=24164
The above URL has the full transcript of the interview.
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:03:59 -0500
From: Ken Hoehn <public-replies-only-please@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Emergency Alert System hacked
Message-ID: <511C0EAE.4090502@horne.net>
Hmmm.....
The government planned & designed a modification to the EAS (Emergency
Alert System) that connects the EAS encoders at [all] the TV
[stations], all cable channels, all satellite channels, and all
broadcast radio stations to the /_Internet_/.
When I first heard that plan a few years ago, I said "No, they can't
be serious".
This happened yesterday, and I'm amazed it took so long:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z_Eg17rLlQ
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/upper_peninsula/hacker-warns-of-zombies-on-mi-stations
Ken Hoehn
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