The Telecom Digest for December 23, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 346 : "text" Format
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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:15:37 -0800
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Navigon MobileNavigator App Bests Standalone Devices
Message-ID: <89adnQih69XUwozQnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Monty Solomon wrote:
>
> Hence my gift suggestion this year, for anyone who has an iPhone and
> could use navigation help when travelling in unfamiliar environs, is
> a GPS iPhone app I've tested extensively and feel comfortable
> recommending: Navigon MobileNavigator [2] (hereafter referred to as
> Navigon). Put simply, Navigon is as good as or better than every
> standalone GPS device I've used, with only a few minor qualifications.
>
> ...
>
> http://db.tidbits.com/article/11801
>
Yet another quick trip to a horrific car crash.
Yee gads, haven't we debated endlessly the hazards of voice and text
wireless in the automobile?!
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 01:40:21 -0800
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: FCC Acts to Preserve Internet Freedom and Openness
Message-ID: <4D11C785.9090401@thadlabs.com>
On 12/21/2010 3:01 PM, Monty Solomon wrote:
> December 21, 2010
>
> FCC Acts to Preserve Internet Freedom and Openness.
> [...]
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746.pdf
>
> Genachowski Statement
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A1.pdf
>
> Copps Statement
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A2.pdf
>
> McDowell Statement
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A3.pdf
>
> Clyburn Statement
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A4.pdf
>
> Baker Statement
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-303746A5.pdf
The above links are still no good as of 22-DEC-2010 0130 PST.
The following daily links work:
http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303745A1.pdf
http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303746A1.pdf
http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303746A2.pdf
http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303746A3.pdf
http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303746A4.pdf
http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303746A5.pdf
***** Moderator's Note *****
Thanks for the info. I try to check all links in posts, but I've been
battling a cold since Friday, and I let those slip by. The FCC web
site is giving "try later" errors right now, so there's clearly a lot
of interest.
Bill Horne
Moderator
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:41:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal
Message-ID: <iesh45$4du$1@news.albasani.net>
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com> wrote:
>>>>Telstra has lost an appeal to keep telephone directories published
>>>>by its subsidiary Sensis copyrighted.
>>>On a related note, is the Australian postal code directory copyrighted?
>>>I've noted that the Canadian postal code directory is protected by a
>>>"crown copyright"; i.e., copyrighted by Elizabeth II herself, so I
>>>assume the Australian director is protected by a similar copyright.
>>>I have a mental image of HRH sitting at her laptop on her Jacobean desk,
>>>corgis at her feet, busily editing postal code directories.
>>Hehehehe
>>The United States Postal Service ZIP Code directory is copyrighted and
>>competing directories are published under license. I suppose since the
>>post office does the actual work assigning ZIP Codes that it's possible
>>to copyright? ZIP Codes are basic information incorporated into any
>>demographic and transporation routing database without license, so I'm
>>not sure how it's possible to prevent someone else from publishing a ZIP
>>Code directory.
>The USPS's concern is for their electronic program. They want complete
>accuracy if they are going to give junk mail and bills a discount. Even
>though the software that verifies Zip+4 or Carrier Route presort is not
>sold by the USPS, they want to make sure that it is accurate.
Any publisher of directory information, attempting to enforce copyright,
would argue that control of the information for the purpose of accuracy
is of critical concern. No one ever argues that he wishes to fully
exploit information for profit.
The 5-digit ZIP Code directory was once ubiquitous. Today, its use is
inadequate to meet ZIP Code accuracy standards for any presorted mail
presented to the post office that requires a 5-digit ZIP Code. For
manually maintained mailing lists, mailers are still allowed to lookup
ZIP Codes one at a time or obtain them from their correspondents, but
if they look them up, they are required to use the post office Web site.
If 5-digit ZIP Code Directories are still licensed, what's the point?
To qualify for many automation discounts, mailers must use software
certified by the post office to encode their mailing lists. Both commercial
and in-house software may be certified.
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:52:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Wes Leatherock <wleathus@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Zip codes (Was:Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal)
Message-ID: <480000.77750.qm@web111715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
--- On Tue, 12/21/10, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> The USPS's concern is for their electronic program. They want
> complete accuracy if they are going to give junk mail and bills a
> discount. Even though the software that verifies Zip+4 or Carrier
> Route presort is not sold by the USPS, they want to make sure that
> it is accurate.
The Zip code system has been extended, first with the +4, which mainly
identifies usually a block of house numbrs, or a specific post office
box, with another three digits which are the last two digits of your
house number, plus a check digit. This uniquely identifies any
address in the United States. The discounts are offerred to any
larger mailer, increasing as the number of pieces mailed at one time,
not just bills and junk mail. When it comes from the post office
sorting equipment to a letter carrier at your local station or branch,
it is already sorted in the delivery order for that carrier's route.
Wes Leatherock
wleathus@yahoo.com
wesrock@aol.com
Date: 22 Dec 2010 01:32:33 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Number portability and the demise of line number pools in bankruptcy
Message-ID: <20101222013233.40764.qmail@joyce.lan>
>What happens to the ported numbers? Is routing to the pool simply shut down?
>I assume that there is no obligation by the incumbent telephone company to
>switch those virtual lines.
You seem to be confusing porting with call forwarding. Once a number
is ported, calls don't go anywhere near the old "donor" network. When
you make a call, your switch (or for a long distance call, your long
distance carrier) queries the ported number database to find out what
switch handle the number, and the call goes directly to that switch.
Each ported number database is run by a neutral third party, typically
Neustar.
I don't know offhand of any cases of a dead provider's numbers being
reclaimed, but even if they are, reissuing them should be no problem.
The new provider can't use the live numbers that have been ported
away, but the database should make it easy enough for them to avoid
that.
RFC 3842 provides a good overview of the way that portability works.
Also see Neustar's page where they describe their NPAC service:
http://www.neustar.biz/services/number-portability-administration-center
R's,
John
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:59:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Number portability and the demise of line number pools in bankruptcy
Message-ID: <ietvtc$ces$1@news.albasani.net>
John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
John, please correctly attribute quotes of my remarks to me. If I was sloppy
in phrasing my question, then the error is on me and shouldn't be assumed
to be on anyone else.
>>What happens to the ported numbers? Is routing to the pool simply shut down?
>>I assume that there is no obligation by the incumbent telephone company to
>>switch those virtual lines.
>You seem to be confusing porting with call forwarding.
I was not.
I assumed that a call would be routed to the default network and, if
the number was ported, the database of ported numbers would be consulted for
routing instructions.
What happens to telephone numbers ported out of a pool when the pool is
eliminated due to the demise of the telephone company authorized to assign
numbers from it? I theorized that the incumbent local exchange carrier
might be temporarily assigned as the default network for the pool (until
the pool is reassigned to another phone company that's run out of numbers),
doing nothing more than referring queries to those remaining numbers ported
out of the pool to the ported number database, but I assumed that the ILEC
had no such obligation in the regulatory scheme. No, I should not have said
"switch".
John kindly explained that we use an All Call Query scheme, in which case
the ported number database is queried to learn if the number is indeed
ported, instead of a Query on Release scheme, in which case the ported
number database is queried only if the number was ported out of the
default network's pool. In ACQ, I can see how routing instructions to
numbers ported out of a pool that no longer exists could survive the
demise of the pool.
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:27:41 -0600
From: rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock)
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Number portability and the demise of line number pools in bankruptcy
Message-ID: <6eWdnTPQWrAALo_QnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@speakeasy.net>
John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
+---------------
| RFC 3842 provides a good overview of the way that portability works.
+---------------
RFC 3842 is "A Message Summary and Message Waiting Indication Event
Package for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)".
I think you meant RFC 3482, "Number Portability in the Global Switched
Telephone Network (GSTN): An Overview".
-Rob
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
Rob Warnock <rpw3@rpw3.org>
627 26th Avenue <URL:http://rpw3.org/>
San Mateo, CA 94403 (650)572-2607
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 17:42:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: History--Eight Digit US telephone numbers?
Message-ID: <620161.81285.qm@web52707.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:07:39 -0800 Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
> Alas, there used to be a web site with recordings of all those
> switch sounds, including panel.
Well, it still exists:
http://www.wideweb.com/phonetrips/
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:25:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Australian phone book content not protected by copyright
Message-ID: <26abb623-4b78-47ae-a3d2-50c9659b110c@g26g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 15, 9:58 pm, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
> Under U.S. copyright law, 'facts of nature' are not
> copyrightable. For a thing to be copyrightable, it must embody a
> degree of 'creative effort'. That 'creativity' is what is
> protected. . . . A "selective' compilation of facts, may qualify
> for a compilation copyright, where the necessary 'creativity' is in
> the selection of which facts to include, and which to exclude.
White Pages may include:
1) Dialing instructions for local and toll calls;
2) Dialing instructions for special feature services (ie disable
call waiting)
3) Special listing sections for government numbers, broken down
by federal, state, and local, and social service help listings.
It would seem to me all of the above would meet the defintion for
creative work and be copyrightable.
Also, most listings use abbreviations of the street address and town
so as to squeeze all the information onto one line. Also, in recent
years Bell directories saved space by printing a last name of a group
of people only once, following it with only the first name, eg
SMITH
John ...
Joseph ...
Mary ...
Does the choice of how to abbreviate stuff count as creativity?
Telephone directory abbreviations were often not used elsewhere. Does
the innovation of listing a last name only once count as "creativity"?
> Under U.S. copyright law, 'facts of nature' are not copyrightable.
> For a thing to be copyrightable, it must embody a degree of
> 'creative effort'. That 'creativity' is what is protected.
Suppose a scientist discovers a new law of nature. Would it be
correct to say that if he merely published the law it would not be
copyrightable because it was a 'fact'; but if he wrote up his research
to show how he discovered the new law that would be copyrightable
since it was his 'creative effort'?
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:51:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Australian phone book content not protected by copyright
Message-ID: <8a9c0674-7f1d-4640-b251-9040d1b02855@30g2000yql.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 16, 1:40 am, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
> One cannot argue that the telco exercises 'creative effort' in selecting
> who is listed in the yellow pages -- anybody who pays for a listing is
> listed. That's mechanical, not creative.
In the past, and probably even still today, the telco exercised some
censorship over the listings it would accept. For example, the
content or illustration of a certain ad may exceed the telco's
standard of good taste or offendability to the subscribers
For instance, they may accept a plain listing for a topless bar, but
not accept a illustration of a topless dancer.
I suspect telcos will not accept ads for illegal activities such as
drug dealers or prostitution.
Anyway, all of the above represents a discretionary judgement call on
the part of the telco.
>***** Moderator's Note *****
> So, if the customer chooses the category, how did a Funeral Director
> wind up listed under "Frozen Meat"? Or, was that an urban legend?
I never of heard of that particular case. But I have heard from
several businesses very upset that the yellow pages did not run their
ads correctly year after year, despite it all being spelled out
clearly in writing. The yellow pages sales people unit are a separate
unit of the telco, or may work for the book printer (Donnelly) in some
cases.
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:56:25 -0600
From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Australian phone book content not protected by copyright
Message-ID: <AANLkTimFBbLt1RS1Wok2bgNDmNv-eao=4k0u2xj3MVdY@mail.gmail.com>
Moderators: as usual, use your judgement on this one as it touches a
sensitive topic, but I see no way to sanitize it and still make sense.
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>
> Anyway, all of the above represents a discretionary judgement call on
> the part of the telco.
I'm making absolutely no judgement on the practice or the topic in
general. There has been controversy about abortion foes placing ads
in the yellow pages under "abortion services" trying to get women to
call them instead. My guess is it's a problem yellow page publishers
wish would just go away or the government would instruct them how to
handle it. They can't win either way and besides, how can they verify
each and every ad is legit?
About 15 years ago an entry appeared in the Melbourne/Palm Bay (FL)
white pages published by BellSouth. The name was Jablome Haywood, but
the first and last names were swapped as is always the case with
personal names in the white pages. Needless to say it didn't appear
the following year.
John
--
John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
***** Moderator's Note *****
I'm not sure where the sensitivity comes up: was Mr. Haywood an
anti-abortion counselor?
Bill Horne
Moderator
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:13:46 -0800
From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Australian phone book content not protected by copyright
Message-ID: <e1f5h6ht3joa4kerbbrkelmksl99sgmntt@4ax.com>
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:51:00 -0800 (PST), Lisa or Jeff
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>I suspect telcos will not accept ads for illegal activities such as
>drug dealers or prostitution.
Prostitution is listed, but not by that name. It is called "escort
services" or "models". The Las Vegas yellow pages has hundreds of
pages of ads for escort services.
Even where prostitution is legal, namely rural Nevada, not all of the
yellow pages have that classification. Here in Pahrump, NV,
prostitution is legal, the yellow pages of the incumbent phone
company, AT&T, does not have that classification. We alo have two
independent phone books. One does not list them. The other does; it
lists 5 establishments, and 2 of them have full-page ads.
Dick
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:05:27 -0800 (PST)
From: "Mark J. Cuccia" <markjcuccia@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: New Implementation Dates for WI 920/274 Area Code Overlay
Message-ID: <511016.71024.qm@web31104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
New Implementation Dates for WI 920/274 Area Code Overlay
Back in November 2010, it was announced that the Wisconsin PSC had
delayed implementation of the 920/274 area code overlay for
east-central Wisconsin. The second semi-annual 2010 NeuStar-NRUF
projections for exhaust of area codes was issued in late October 2010,
and showed that the 920 area code in east-central Wisconsin could
exhaust in 2Q/2014, instead of any earlier exhaust dates indicated in
previously issued NRUF projections.
Today, Wednesday 22-December-2010, NeuStar-NANPA issued another
Planning Letter, PL-417, which can be downloaded from:
http://www.nanpa.com/pdf/PL_417.pdf
(The previous PL #385 was issued by NANPA on Monday 22-December-2008,
indicating the earlier, now superseded, implementation dates)
The new implementation dates for the 920/274 area code overlay in
east-central Wisconsin are now as follows:
(NOTE that these are still tentative, and depending on subsequent
future semi-annual NANPA-NRUF area code exhaust projections, these
dates could be postponed even further)
Permissive ten-digit intra-920 Local Dialing (alongside existing
seven-digit local dialing) must be in place by:
Saturday 04-May-2013
(The previous date was for Saturday 14-May-2011)
(Wireless providers already allow such permissive 10-digit dialing,
and it is likely that several other landline telcos might also allow
such permissive 10-digit dialing)
MANDATORY ten-digit intra-920 Local Dialing:
Saturday 25-January-2014
(The previous date was for Saturday 11-February-2012)
New (pre-assigned) 274-NXX c.o.codes activated as early as:
Saturday 22-February-2014
(The previous date was for Saturday 10-March-2012)
New 274-NXX c.o.codes can be REQUESTED for (pre)assignment
from Neustar-NANPA, by service providers, starting:
Thursday 22-August-2013
(The previous date was for Saturday 10-September-2011)
The 274 NPA test-numbers will start by:
Monday 18-November-2013
(The previous date was for Saturday 10-December-2011)
Those test-numbers can be disconnected starting on:
Thursday 20-March-2014
(The previous date was for Tuesday 10-April-2012)
Again, these dates are still TENTATIVE, and depending on future
subsequent semi-annual NANPA NRUF area code exhaust projections, the
above revised implementation dates could potentially be postponed
even further.
There will be two test-numbers:
One, terminating in LATA 356 (southeastern WI):
274-222-TEST Frontier (as of July 2010; area once was VeriZon/GTE)
Another, terminating in LATA 350 (northeastern WI):
274-274-1274 supposed to be "Solarus" aka Central Wisconsin Comm's,
a CLEC associated with a nearby ILEC (Wood County Telephone Co).
(Apparently, at&t/SBC/Ameritech/WI-Bell is not providing a test number
in this overlay)
I don't yet know the ratecenters/switch-CLLIs for these test-numbers.
Mark J. Cuccia
markjcuccia at yahoo dot com
Lafayette LA, formerly of New Orleans LA pre-Katrina
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:04:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal
Message-ID: <87e69344-e1a6-440c-8bb6-29082c80120e@n10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 20, 11:15 pm, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> The United States Postal Service ZIP Code directory is copyrighted and
> competing directories are published under license. I suppose since the
> post office does the actual work assigning ZIP Codes that it's possible
> to copyright? ZIP Codes are basic information incorporated into any
> demographic and transporation routing database without license, so I'm
> not sure how it's possible to prevent someone else from publishing a ZIP
> Code directory.
I thought the US Govt wasn't allowed to copyright anything? Or is the
Post Office exempt from that since it is now a separate "Service" as
opposed to a regular Department of the govt? (It's hard to believe
today, but I think the postmaster general was once a full level
cabinet member; this was discontinued when they created the Postal
Service in the 1970s).
One year the P.O. sent me a state Zip+4 directory. It was a nice as a
regular zip code directory.
M/S Word has long had a facility to print a bar code above an address
with the zip or zip+5 code in it. Unfortunately, my PC's printers
were always lousy at printing envelopes so it was a feature I rarely
used. But if I were printing a group of mailing labels via M/S Word I
certainly would use the feature.
I once heard that the post office has people working out of their
homes sorting mail that isn't machine readable (eg handwritten letters
and postcards). An image of the front of a letter is displayed on the
computer screen and the person keys in the address and the proper zip
code/routing information is bar coded on the mail. The technology to
do this sort of thing is certainly easy. Anyone know if they actually
do this?
Returning to telecom, at one time some other countries had their post
office also run their telephone system. Is that still the case today?
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:23:15 -0700
From: Robert Neville <dont@bother.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Telstra loses directory copyright appeal
Message-ID: <elj5h6h19s2cedr0egg72uqkjem479s21a@4ax.com>
Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>M/S Word has long had a facility to print a bar code above an address
>with the zip or zip+5 code in it.
Actually, that capability was removed in 2007, apparently at the post office's
request. I don't recall the reasons - something about the bar code being
reserved for bulk mailing and a concern about the accuracy of the address used
to create the code I think.
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