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 Upgrade from DSL to U-verse
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:52:35 -0800 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Upgrade from DSL to U-verse Message-ID: <hghbl5$1sm$1@news.eternal-september.org> I just got the word from AT&T that they would not be able to install the U-Verse on my line. This was after they took the order and told me it would work. I questioned them on it since they would still be using the last 3000 feet of cable that is a mess of bad splices and pairs. I had a pretty good idea that they would be unable to install it. I have had problems with my DSL over the last year. By the way, 4 techs worked over 8 hours trying to get it up. I guess I'll just have to live with what I have until they get more people in the area that want U-verse and place another Hub a couple of thousand feet closer or we get the long promised rebuild. Cable is not an option. -- The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co. ***** Moderator's Note ***** If you can't get cable, how about satellite or WiMax? From what you've described, I get the impression that the best solution is "Anything But" Verizon DSL. Bill Horne Moderator
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:18:00 +0000 (UTC) From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Upgrade from DSL to U-verse Message-ID: <hgjqfn$us9$2@news.albasani.net> Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> wrote: >I just got the word from AT&T that they would not be able to install the >U-Verse on my line. This was after they took the order and told me it >would work. I questioned them on it since they would still be using the >last 3000 feet of cable that is a mess of bad splices and pairs. . . . 3000 feet of copper that's required replacement for how many years now? I had no idea that the VLAD (the alien landing platform) could be that far from the subscriber's premises. Considering how ubiquitous these boxes are in communities in which AT&T is selling U-verse, I figured the subscriber had to be within 1/4 mile or no more than 1500 feet.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:03:51 -0800 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Upgrade from DSL to U-verse Message-ID: <hgk0m9$gfh$1@news.eternal-september.org> Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> wrote: > >> I just got the word from AT&T that they would not be able to install the >> U-Verse on my line. This was after they took the order and told me it >> would work. I questioned them on it since they would still be using the >> last 3000 feet of cable that is a mess of bad splices and pairs. . . . > > 3000 feet of copper that's required replacement for how many years now? > > I had no idea that the VLAD (the alien landing platform) could be that far > from the subscriber's premises. Considering how ubiquitous these boxes are > in communities in which AT&T is selling U-verse, I figured the subscriber > had to be within 1/4 mile or no more than 1500 feet. > The cable is from the 60's and early 70's and I'm a half mile from the nearest U-verse. I contacted the administrative offices and am waiting for an answer. I was told that they would install another Hub when more people in the area request U-verse, I told them that 9 people plus me want it, that did get their attention, but it takes 6 months to get one in place, they have to run at least a 1/4 mile of fiber and replace some of the copper, they also need the city permits. They are now looking at all the splices since they keep finding Bridge Taps which makes DSL suck. -- The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:14:45 -0800 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Upgrade from DSL to U-verse Message-ID: <hgj56q$vmb$1@news.eternal-september.org> Moderator wrote: > **** Moderator's Note ***** > > If you can't get cable, how about satellite or WiMax? From what you've > described, I get the impression that the best solution is "Anything > But" Verizon DSL. I can get cable, but the cable they use is also 30 years old. [They have] Fiber [available], but it is also over 3000 feet away, and [it's provided by] Charter, which is a pain to deal with. We are served by at&t, not Verizon. The Verizon in the area is all FiOS, and is new build; being a retired GTE employee, if I lived in Verizon's service area, I could get Verizon for about 30% less then they charge non-employee subscribers. I have both at&t Wifi through the city, but get the higher speed and also have a MiFi from Sprint; satellite is slower even with the problems with DSL. I have been told that they are now monitoring the Network Router I'm on and if in fact there are a lot of large users on it they will either move some of them off or move me, that itself will clear the problem so I get at least 4500 Mh. - - The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co. ***** Moderator's Note ***** What's "MiFi"? Bill Horne
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:56:34 -0800 From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu Subject: Re: Upgrade from DSL to U-verse Message-ID: <hgk08l$dmm$1@news.eternal-september.org> > Moderator wrote: > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > What's "MiFi"? > > Bill Horne It is a mini Wifi that connects to the Sprint 4G network: it can handle 7 computers. Verizon also has one, [which] requires a data plan, [and] it works pretty good. I bought it a few months ago; I was working on a Switch for Sprint and one of the techs had one. Since the company I work for is the primary contractor for them I got a pretty good deal: right now 4G is limited to a few large cities, [and] they plan on a nationwide roll out late next year. They have partners around the US and Canada. -- The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, Inc., A Rot in Hell. Co.
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