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Volume 28 : Issue 303 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Area code 533 assigned for personal communications services
Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Re: Area code 533 assigned for personal communications services
Classic phone booth still in service
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:23:50 GMT
From: sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com (David Kaye)
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Area code 533 assigned for personal communications services
Message-ID: <hcp3s6$utb$4@news.eternal-september.org>
John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
> How many would know? Various consumer protection agencies warn
> people against relying on businesses with only a cell phone number.
> The idea is you could be from out-of-town or fly-by-night. You
> didn't say which business you were in.
I do computer tech support, mostly for Windows machines. Nobody cares
that I only have a cell phone, but then as you say, how would they
know? They also allow me to remove computers from their homes when
there is extensive stuff to do such as HD replacement, remounting
Windows, etc., and they have nothing from me but a business card --
without even an address on it.
BUT, and here's the big BUT -- I have an ad in the yellow pages. They
figure that if I'm willing to spend money on yellow pages advertising
then I must be fairly responsible, since, as we all know, yellow pages
advertising costs a lot. Thus, the expense of yp advertising tends to
be self-select a higher caliber of entrepreneur.
Long live the yellow pages!
--
"You're in probably the wickedest, most corrupt city, most
Godless city in America." -- Fr Mullen, "San Francisco"
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:44:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Message-ID: <hco8u7$fl7$1@news.albasani.net>
Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
> This brings up all the AT&T directories for the 48 states.
> http://www.realpageslive.com/
It's merely their directories in 22 states, and not in Illinois or
northwest Indiana where the historic agreement with Reuben
H. Donnelley is still in place. I tested a few community names that I
knew AT&T didn't publish directories for, and the search engine
"matched" as closely as possible another community irrelevant to my
request.
Also, it's easily confused by "John Smith", requiring "Smith, John",
but there's no reminder to that effect.
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:25:56 -0800
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Message-ID: <oQYHm.3767$Xf2.270@newsfe12.iad>
Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
>> This brings up all the AT&T directories for the 48 states.
>
>>http://www.realpageslive.com/
>
> It's merely their directories in 22 states, and not in Illinois or
> northwest Indiana where the historic agreement with Reuben
> H. Donnelley is still in place. I tested a few community names that
> I knew AT&T didn't publish directories for, and the search engine
> "matched" as closely as possible another community irrelevant to my
> request.
>
> Also, it's easily confused by "John Smith", requiring "Smith,
> John", but there's no reminder to that effect.
I should have parsed my words more carefully. They provide a
selection map of all 48 states. I presume a state where they don't
have an LEC presence wouldn't return anything.
Does AT&T provide LEC service in Illinois?
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 01:07:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Message-ID: <hcqk3s$2h4$1@news.albasani.net>
Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> wrote:
>>>This brings up all the AT&T directories for the 48 states.
>>>http://www.realpageslive.com/
>> It's merely their directories in 22 states, and not in Illinois or
>> northwest Indiana where the historic agreement with Reuben
>> H. Donnelley is still in place. I tested a few community names that
>> I knew AT&T didn't publish directories for, and the search engine
>> "matched" as closely as possible another community irrelevant to my
>> request.
>> Also, it's easily confused by "John Smith", requiring "Smith,
>> John", but there's no reminder to that effect.
> I should have parsed my words more carefully. They provide a
> selection map of all 48 states. I presume a state where they don't
> have an LEC presence wouldn't return anything.
> Does AT&T provide LEC service in Illinois?
Yes. But their phone book publishing subsidiary doesn't publish the
phone books. Reuben H. Donnelley is the business listings publisher
and the directories are a joint venture.
Anyway, I found http://dexpages.com/ which is supposed to do the same
"look and feel" for their phone books in a dozen or so states, but
it's been down for a few days.
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:14:00 GMT
From: sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com (David Kaye)
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Message-ID: <hcp39n$utb$2@news.eternal-september.org>
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Its business listings are from yellowpages.com, an AT&T
> subsidiary. Now, Yellow Pages listings aren't as accurate nor
> up-to-date as a business white pages of telephone subscribers, but
> it's better than nothing. Searching isn't readily controlled by the
> user, which is deliberate.
All I can say is that I hope the print editions of the AT&T yellow
pages don't stop. That's where I get a lot of new customers! There
are many people who prefer to look through the yellow pages and
compare ads side by side before deciding on who to call for service.
--
"You're in probably the wickedest, most corrupt city, most
Godless city in America." -- Fr Mullen, "San Francisco"
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:16:39 GMT
From: sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com (David Kaye)
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Message-ID: <hcp3em$utb$3@news.eternal-september.org>
Wesrock@aol.com wrote:
> AT&T in Oklahoma City and several other cities have made white
> (residential) pages available only on request, and in fact they make
> it difficult to make such a request (the request must be made by
> telephone only, not by e-mail or U.S. mail, and presumably you have
> to wait in queue to make such a request.
Personally I haven't looked up anything in the white pages in at least
a year. So few residential users are listed that it's really only a
source for business listings, and if I already know the name of the
company (which is how the white pages are organized) then I just look
it up online.
--
"You're in probably the wickedest, most corrupt city, most
Godless city in America." -- Fr Mullen, "San Francisco"
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:04:28 EST
From: Wesrock@aol.com
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: White Pages may fall victim of technology
Message-ID: <bc9.5b0f6535.38222d1c@aol.com>
In a message dated 11/3/2009 9:38:29 AM Central Standard Time,
sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com writes:
> Personally I haven't looked up anything in the white pages in at
> least a year. So few residential users are listed that it's really
> only a source for business listings, and if I already know the name
> of the company (which is how the white pages are organized) then I
> just look it up online.
In Oklahoma City, and I assume in other AT&T cities, the "white pages"
are residential. The Yellow Pages have a section at the front,
printed on white paper, which is an alphabetical listing of
businesses.
Very handy if you can't guess what heading a business may be listed
under.
Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:44:03 -0800
From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Area code 533 assigned for personal communications services
Message-ID: <brive5d7c8k6lq05u9bbcnoqu6r4rfnija@4ax.com>
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:13:27 EDT, Wesrock@aol.com wrote:
> I can't imagine anyone would call a cell-only number to call a local
> plumber, handyman, or any other outfit publishing such a number in
> their advertisements.
In the USA, there is no way to tell whether a particular number in
your area code is a cell phone, especially considering number
portability, where you can have your land-line number re-assigned to a
cell phone.
Another way, which was used before number portability: In my town, a
one-man air-conditioner business lives so far out of town that the
wired phone lines don't reach him. He has a phone number with a
land-line prefix, with no phone line assigned to it. All calls are
auto-transfered to his cell phone.
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:44:03 -0800 (PST)
From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Classic phone booth still in service
Message-ID: <dd1bbef6-cb6a-4899-a86a-156145e4dfc1@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
I saw a classic telephone booth today, still in service. It had the
folding door, light, fan with switch, small seat, small table, and a
directory (and of course a phone).
It was located in the waiting room of the Princeton NJ train station
(note--not the Princeton Jct station). The waiting room is only open
weekday mornings.
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