The Telecom Digest for November 07, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 300 : "text" Format
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:04:41 -0700
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Major Security Holes Found In Mobile Phone Bank Apps
Message-ID: <4CD49B99.7080503@thadlabs.com>
The following just hit the wires on Slashdot 5-NOV-2010:
A security firm disclosed holes today in mobile apps
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20021874-245.html
from Bank of America, USAA, Chase, Wells Fargo and TD Ameritrade,
prompting a scramble by most of the companies to update the apps.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703805704575594581203248658.html
Specifically, viaForensics concluded that: the USAA's Android
app stored copies of Web pages a user visited on the phone;
TD Ameritrade's iPhone and Android apps were storing the user
name in plain text on the phone; Wells Fargo's Android app
stored user name, password, and account data in plain text on
the phone; Bank of America's Android app saves a security
question (used if a user was accessing the site from an
unrecognized device) in plain text on the phone; and Chase's
iPhone app stores the username on a phone if the user chose
that option, according to the report. Meanwhile, the iPhone
apps from USAA, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and Vanguard
and PayPal's Android app all passed the security tests and
were found to be handling data securely.
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:55:01 -0700
From: Bob <RBF1147-UN@YAH0O.C0M>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon-Penna gets ok to end phone books
Message-ID: <ib2jic$d7m$1@news.eternal-september.org>
On 11/4/2010 20:18, tlvp wrote:
> And gone will be the days of thumbing through the Restaurant pages of the
> current motel's local phone book, so as to figure out where to have dinner
> before turning in for the night when temporarily in a strange town ...
> :-{ .
Most hotels I have patronized recently provide phone books from
publishers other than the local telco. One has only the business to
business yellow pages -- I can't find a place to get a pizza, but I can
find a place for a pizza oven.
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 18:55:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon-Penna gets ok to end phone books
Message-ID: <ib1jus$jr0$7@news.albasani.net>
Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> wrote:
>What's interesting is this year's cover claims "yp.com" is the
>new "yellowpages.com".
>Interesting. Looks like "yp.com" finds businesses by name or number
>(reverse lookup?) and is also a people-finder. I didn't bother to
>enable javascript to test it, but that capability could be useful.
It's not a people finder. It's yet another front end to Intellius.
Right now, there are no on line databases left except Intellius and
whitepages.com.
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:34:34 -0400
From: tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon-Penna gets ok to end phone books
Message-ID: <op.vlp03wtzitl47o@acer250.gateway.2wire.net>
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:29:08 -0400, Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> wrote:
> In my town of Pahrump, NV, besides the usual AT&T white and yellow
> page directory, two other companies distribute phone directories with
> both types of pages: One from a local newspaper, the other from a
> company based in Utah.
And, besides all those directories, Pahrump's also got (warning: OT)
a fantastic local winery :-) ... Scrumptious stuff made there!
Cheers, -- tlvp
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:11:13 -0700
From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon-Penna gets ok to end phone books
Message-ID: <9v9bd61o4ssnne2vtkusdc73snqvte49p3@4ax.com>
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:34:34 -0400, tlvp
<tPlOvUpBErLeLsEs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:29:08 -0400, Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> wrote:
>
>> In my town of Pahrump, NV, besides the usual AT&T white and yellow
>> page directory, two other companies distribute phone directories with
>> both types of pages: One from a local newspaper, the other from a
>> company based in Utah.
>
>And, besides all those directories, Pahrump's also got (warning: OT)
>a fantastic local winery :-) ... Scrumptious stuff made there!
>
>Cheers, -- tlvp
Actually, we have two wineries now. The guy who started the first one
sold it, and then started a new one.
Alas, I don't drink alcohol.
Dick
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 00:14:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon-Penna gets ok to end phone books
Message-ID: <ib26l5$j5l$1@news.albasani.net>
Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> wrote:
>In my town of Pahrump, NV, besides the usual AT&T white and yellow
>page directory, two other companies distribute phone directories with
>both types of pages: One from a local newspaper, the other from a
>company based in Utah.
>One advantage of the independents is that they will publish any yellow
>page ad from anyone, whereas AT&T will only list those with business
>phone accounts. This is useful for finding businesses which do not
>have a business phone account, but use only the owner's cell phone for
>business calls.
Say your business uses a cell phone service or a VoIP service using phone
numbers provided by bandwidth.com as its main telephone point of contact.
Such telephone number providers wouldn't typically have listing agreements
with the "official" phone book publisher. You can indeed buy your way into
the telephone directory for a small monthly fee usually paid a publishing
cycle in advance, and then buy a yellow pages display ad.
It is extremely difficult to find anyone at AT&T who knows how to put you
in touch with that sales group, of course.
I have no doubt that "alternative" yellow pages provides go out of their
way to make it easier to buy display and in-line advertising than the
"official" publisher does.
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 19:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon-Penna gets ok to end phone books
Message-ID: <2132c297-cf89-41fe-8c50-427fc9ed9624@t35g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 4, 11:18 pm, tlvp <tPlOvUpBErLeL...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And gone will be the days of thumbing through the Restaurant pages of the
> current motel's local phone book, so as to figure out where to have dinner
> before turning in for the night when temporarily in a strange town ... :-{
.
I think the yellow pages will stay since they make a profit off of
that.
The following from today may have more information:
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/business/homepage/20101105_Pa__allows_Verizon_to_quit_distributing_residential_phone_books.html
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:39:02 EDT
From: Wes Leatherock <wesrock@aol.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon-Penna gets ok to end phone books
Message-ID: <13803.10f17b91.3a05fda6@aol.com>
In a message dated 11/5/2010 5:26:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
thad@thadlabs.com writes:
>> And gone will be the days of thumbing through the Restaurant pages
>> of the current motel's local phone book, so as to figure out where
>> to have dinner before turning in for the night when temporarily in
>> a strange town ... :-{ .
>>
>> All good things must pass, I guess. Cheers, -- tlvp
> This is actually sad -- the passing of another piece of history.
> Back when I was making numerous business trips, it was fun to see
> what pages were the most-frequented in the local phone books based
> on observing the book from the side while it was "flat" on a
> table. In Philadelphia, I noticed restaurant pages were the ones; in
> San Diego CA it was the massage parlors. One quickly gets a "feel"
> for an area from such observations. :-)
I see no mention of eliminating the Yellow Pages. While the white
pages are available only on request where live (Oklahoma City in AT&T
(former SBC, nee Southwestern Bell) territory, the Yellow Pages are
alive and well (and have several other publishers putting them out,
too). They are a money-making enterprise and I think it unlikely they
will be elimintated. The restaurant pages expand every year and some
restaurants even spend the money to publish their menus and this must
be a great source of revenue for both the Bell and competring
directory publishers.
Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 18:46:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: T-Mobile 4G commercials
Message-ID: <ib1jdc$jr0$6@news.albasani.net>
T-Mobile is advertising 4G. Are they reselling Sprint and Clear, or did
they actually erect a network of their own?
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:19:22 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: T-Mobile 4G commercials
Message-ID: <ib467a$40h$1@news.eternal-september.org>
On 11/5/10 11:46 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> T-Mobile is advertising 4G. Are they reselling Sprint and Clear, or did
> they actually erect a network of their own?
>
I don't think it is Sprints or Clearwire as those are CDMA and T-Mobile
is GSM, maybe an LTE network.
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 15:19:02 -0400
From: Bert Olton <artorius@rochester.rr.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: "Bell System" hammer
Message-ID: <ib1lag$j81$1@news.eternal-september.org>
Greetings and my apologies for dropping in here without having first
lurked for a time. Someone in another newsgroup suggested you folks as
a likely resource for information on something I stumbled across.
I am a welder/heavy equipment mechanic by trade but I do some hobby
level blacksmithing as well, so my eye is always open to unusual metal
working tools.
A couple of days ago I found a hammer which had "Bell System" stamped on
one side. There are no other markings on it. It's about 3 to 4 pounds,
a straight peen and the really unusual thing about it is a 7/8th inch
hole through the head, parallel to the peen and handle.
Would any of you happen to know the purpose of that hole?
Again, my apologies and thanks for your patience with an out of the blue
drop in.
Bert
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:22:31 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: "Bell System" hammer
Message-ID: <ib46d7$40h$2@news.eternal-september.org>
On 11/5/10 12:19 PM, Bert Olton wrote:
> Greetings and my apologies for dropping in here without having first
> lurked for a time. Someone in another newsgroup suggested you folks as a
> likely resource for information on something I stumbled across.
>
> I am a welder/heavy equipment mechanic by trade but I do some hobby
> level blacksmithing as well, so my eye is always open to unusual metal
> working tools.
>
> A couple of days ago I found a hammer which had "Bell System" stamped on
> one side. There are no other markings on it. It's about 3 to 4 pounds, a
> straight peen and the really unusual thing about it is a 7/8th inch hole
> through the head, parallel to the peen and handle.
>
> Would any of you happen to know the purpose of that hole?
>
> Again, my apologies and thanks for your patience with an out of the blue
> drop in.
>
> Bert
>
It might be for fixing climbing pegs on telephone poles
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 11:09:19 -0400
From: Randall <rvh40.remove-this@and-this-too.insightbb.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Yellow Pages
Message-ID: <55850755-6B9B-4FC6-A75E-AF197CAE67F4@insightbb.com>
>>> The Phila Inqr reported:
>>>
>>> Verizon Pennsylvania Inc. today got the go-ahead to stop regular
>>> publishing of the white pages.
>>
>> And gone will be the days of thumbing through the Restaurant pages
>> of the
>> current motel's local phone book, so as to figure out where to
>> have dinner
>> before turning in for the night when temporarily in a strange
>> town ...
>> :-{ .
>>
>> All good things must pass, I guess. Cheers, -- tlvp
>
> This is actually sad -- the passing of another piece of
> history.
>
> Back when I was making numerous business trips, it was
> fun to see what pages were the most-frequented in the
> local phone books based on observing the book from the
> side while it was "flat" on a table. In Philadelphia, I
> noticed restaurant pages were the ones; in San Diego CA
> it was the massage parlors. One quickly gets a "feel" for
> an area from such observations. :-)
To be clear: They are stopping the WHITE Pages, not the Yellow.
Yellow pages are surely a profit-maker for them (since competitors
are trying to take a bite of that sandwich). They're surely not
stopping the Yellow Pages (and I can't recall ever seeing a White
Page phone book in a motel room, much less one with "massage parlor"
ads.)
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