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Message Digest
Volume 28 : Issue 286 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: New top-level domain names are coming
Re: New top-level domain names are coming
Re: New top-level domain names are coming
Re: GM/NCL conspiracy against streetcars?
Re: GM/NCL conspiracy against streetcars?
Re: Shorted phone lines auto-dialing 911?
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:40:57 -0400
From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: New top-level domain names are coming
Message-ID: <barmar-38426D.04405717102009@news.eternal-september.org>
In article
<6645152a0910162038n5f9d6a6dxaf5dde8b37e2b44@mail.gmail.com>,
John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
> Granted I'm not an Internet expert. I've just used it for nearly 25
> years. But the point I was trying to make was if I registered the
> top-level domain (TLD) "mayson" I think I would still need a hostname
> in an email address. john@mayson would be analogous to john@com.
> Granted if I controlled "mayson" I could say nothing existed below it,
Why would you have to say nothing existed below it? You can have an MX
record on "mayson", and an A record on "www.mayson". This is analogous
to having an MX record on "mayson.us" and an A record on "www.mayson.us".
> but I would think this would cause problems because mail servers
> wouldn't know what to do with it. Did I mean mayson.com? mayson.us?
Mail servers don't try to figure out what you mean. They just take the
name after the "@", and look up the MX record to see where mail should
be delivered (if there's no MX record they'll look for an A record).
> What if I was able to snag, say, "cnn" as a TLD (unlikely, but what if
> I did)? If someone accidently sent an email to wolf.blitzer@cnn would
> I get it?
Yes. But good luck winning the trademark dispute with CNN so you can
keep the domain.
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:57:32 +1100
From: David Clayton <dcstar@NOSPAM.myrealbox.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: New top-level domain names are coming
Message-ID: <pan.2009.10.17.22.57.26.287103@NOSPAM.myrealbox.com>
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:40:57 -0400, Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article
> <6645152a0910162038n5f9d6a6dxaf5dde8b37e2b44@mail.gmail.com>,
> John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
.........
> Why would you have to say nothing existed below it? You can have an MX
> record on "mayson", and an A record on "www.mayson". This is analogous to
> having an MX record on "mayson.us" and an A record on "www.mayson.us".
>
>> but I would think this would cause problems because mail servers
>> wouldn't know what to do with it. Did I mean mayson.com? mayson.us?
>
> Mail servers don't try to figure out what you mean. They just take the
> name after the "@", and look up the MX record to see where mail should be
> delivered (if there's no MX record they'll look for an A record).
........
Are you absolutely sure that MX records are not required?
My understanding (and experience) is that they are mandatory, and the RFC
seems to say so:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc974.txt
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Date: 17 Oct 2009 18:20:02 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: New top-level domain names are coming
Message-ID: <20091017182002.19229.qmail@simone.iecc.com>
> But the point I was trying to make was if I registered the
> top-level domain (TLD) "mayson" I think I would still need a
> hostname in an email address. john@mayson would be analogous to
> john@com
You might want to ask the guy whose address has been n@ai for many
years. (Yes, his name is Ian.) In some mail programs it works,
in some it doesn't. The current spec says the domain is supposed
to have at least two components, but the older versions were
ambigious so feel free to pay your $185,000 (plus $100 registration
fee) and take your chances.
R's,
John
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:57:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: GM/NCL conspiracy against streetcars?
Message-ID: <hbdb41$qsm$1@reader1.panix.com>
John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> writes:
>John Levine wrote:
>> For commuter railroads, the biggest problem was competition from
>> highways that were publicly funded and paid no taxes. I agree
>> that streetcards were killed by the well known NCL conspiracy
>> between GM and oil companies.
>This is long since disproven, see:
> http://www.lava.net/cslater/TQOrigin.pdf
> http://cosmo.pasadena.ca.us/stan/ul/GM-et-al.html
> http://www.erha.org/plot.htm
See The History Detectives piece on this:
http://www.tinyurl.com/ykwye5f
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:49:36 -0700
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: GM/NCL conspiracy against streetcars?
Message-ID: <4ADA4A00.1030305@thadlabs.com>
On 10/17/2009 1:57 PM, David Lesher wrote:
> John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> writes:
>
>> John Levine wrote:
>>> For commuter railroads, the biggest problem was competition from
>>> highways that were publicly funded and paid no taxes. I agree
>>> that streetcards were killed by the well known NCL conspiracy
>>> between GM and oil companies.
>
>> This is long since disproven, see:
>> http://www.lava.net/cslater/TQOrigin.pdf
>> http://cosmo.pasadena.ca.us/stan/ul/GM-et-al.html
>> http://www.erha.org/plot.htm
>
> See The History Detectives piece on this:
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/ykwye5f
I'm going to add some input, but note it's second-hand (from one
of my grandfathers and his son, one of my uncles) who lived in
Baltimore MD and worked in transit for a combined 100 years.
That grandfather came to the USA in the late 1800s and worked
the streetcars in Baltimore. The streetcars were the only things
that worked in the heavy snows that would cover the streets -- buses
couldn't do it. That uncle (his son) entered the workforce at
Baltimore Transit after WW-II, started on the ground floor as a
mechanic on diesel buses, and was VP of Baltimore Transit when he
retired from Baltimore Transit (1990s).
Both gentlemen told me in the early 1950s that GM was behind the
push to eliminate streetcars in favor of diesel buses. Now that's
almost 60 years ago they said that during normal conversation,
neither gentleman had any axes to grind, and they had no reason
to lie to me.
If anyone's in the area (Baltimore MD) and wants to verify this,
last name is Byczkowski, uncle's first name is Charles, and for
the life of me I cannot remember my Granddad's first name.
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:35:44 GMT
From: "Tony Toews \[MVP\]" <ttoews@telusplanet.net>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Shorted phone lines auto-dialing 911?
Message-ID: <vrdkd5loplp6dkk3louh2d8vjf16glo99r@4ax.com>
AES <siegman@stanford.edu> wrote:
> line B began developing horrible audio crackling on conversations
> during the day,
> The mystery observation was a police car with two nice officers in
> our driveway in the middle of the first night, reporting a 911 call
> on line C,
This happened to my brother in Calgary a number of years back in his
apartment. He picked up the phone and heard a horrible audio
crackling. So he hung up and phoned telco repair vai an alternate
means.
In the middle of the night the local police service hammered on his
door. He answered the door in his underwear and they politely told
him the problem. He picked up the phone and the crackly audio was
very audible.
As an aside my brother had left a partially dissassembled rifle on the
kitchen table. They just looked at it, shrugged and left. Yes, at
the time he was single.
Tony
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