The Telecom Digest for September 19, 2010
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:16:37 -0400
From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: MCI founder John Goeken dead at 80
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1009171914130.17259@panix5.panix.com>
(The other "big name" associated with Microwave Communications Inc.,
William McGowan, died back in 1992)
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jw7LD9yaDIFKEOJ0owiMf29TNoPAD9I9V0V80
MCI founder John Goeken dead at 80
Associated Press September 17, 2010 03:58 PM
Friday, September 17, 2010
Joliet, Ill. - John "Jack" Goeken (GOH'-ken), founder of telecom giant
MCI, has died after a long battle with cancer. He was 80.
The Goeken Group Corp., a company he founded in Chicago's suburbs
after MCI, says Goeken died Thursday in his hometown of Joliet,
Illinois.
Goeken is widely viewed as the father of air-to-ground telephone
communication.
As a founder of MCI and Airfone Inc., he sought to make communication
possible anywhere people go - an idea that revolutionized the
telecommunications industry.
He also won a reputation as "Jack the Giant Killer," because of his
fervor for busting up communications monopolies like AT&T.
Goeken is survived by his wife of 59 years, Mona Lisa Goeken, two
children, seven grandchildren and two sisters.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:58:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Now the reporter will never prove the Mars landing was a hoax
Message-ID: <i70h8b$plf$6@news.albasani.net>
Lisa or Jeff <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>Sometimes an older edition of a directory will have a listing that is
>not provided later on. For instance, in my area the USPS used to
>provide the phone numbers of each individual post office; . . .
It's no great loss. For over 15 years, the post office has been actively
discourage the public from calling the local office. The phone number
that used to be published in the phone directory is likely disconnected.
Postal management has been changing the phone numbers of post offices
specifically to thwart the general public from calling, and the phone
numbers are now getting changed every second or third year.
I've heard stories from staff that their office phone numbers were changed
without telling staff that works at the office.
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: JaxGoogleMail <jackanddianeadams@gmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Now the reporter will never prove the Mars landing was a hoax
Message-ID: <72672cce-6e15-4be9-9897-029aed468c8f@t7g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 17, 3:58 pm, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> Lisa or Jeff <hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>
> >Sometimes an older edition of a directory will have a listing that is
> >not provided later on. For instance, in my area the USPS used to
> >provide the phone numbers of each individual post office; . . .
>
> It's no great loss. For over 15 years, the post office has been actively
> discourage the public from calling the local office. The phone number
> that used to be published in the phone directory is likely disconnected.
> Postal management has been changing the phone numbers of post offices
> specifically to thwart the general public from calling, and the phone
> numbers are now getting changed every second or third year.
>
> I've heard stories from staff that their office phone numbers were changed
> without telling staff that works at the office.
Ah, the saga of directory listings. How many people recall that
France Telecom was the driving force behind the "Minitel" terminal in
the 1970-1980 era? Everyone on this side of the ocean wondered
whyFrance Telecom was so successful with their Minitel when our own
attempts at Videotex / Teletex were abismal failures. It turns out
that A) They were distributed free to France Telecom subscribers and
B) The paper directories were never accurate or updated and live
information service was equally horrid. Thus the only way to look up a
telephone number was to use a Minitel and its associated online DB.
Is this a repeat of the same strategy that worked (sort of) 40 years
ago?
Jack
***** Moderator's Note *****
A. Because it breaks the natural top-to-bottom flow of a written conversation.
Q. Why is top-posting bad?
Bill Horne
Moderator
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:46:07 -0700
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Now the reporter will never prove the Mars landing was a hoax
Message-ID: <4C95796F.8040005@thadlabs.com>
> [...]
> ***** Moderator's Note *****
>
> A. Because it breaks the natural top-to-bottom flow of a written conversation.
> Q. Why is top-posting bad?
>
> Bill Horne
> Moderator
Heh!
As a moderator of several astronomy and computer groups, I
(fortunately) infrequently have to add the following items
copy'n'pasted to reformatted malformed replies:
(1)
A: Yes.
Q: Does that happen with short messages too?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in forums and in e-mail?
(2)
A: It is contrary to logical thought.
Q: Why is top posting bad?
(3)
A: Yes.
> Q: Are you sure?
>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?
(4)
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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:50:30 EDT
From: Wes Leatherock <Wesrock@aol.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Now the reporter will never prove the Mars landing was a hoax
Message-ID: <232977.a4d57a3.39c655e6@aol.com>
In a message dated 9/18/2010 12:20:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
ahk@chinet.com writes:
> It's no great loss. For over 15 years, the post office has been actively
> discourage the public from calling the local office. The phone number
> that used to be published in the phone directory is likely disconnected.
> Postal management has been changing the phone numbers of post offices
> specifically to thwart the general public from calling, and the phone
> numbers are now getting changed every second or third year.
> I've heard stories from staff that their office phone numbers were changed
> without telling staff that works at the office.
I have noticed that many banks that did not publish the phone numbers for
their branches have now resumed listing them with address and phone number.
But not the post office.
Wes Leatherock
wesrock@aol.com
wleathus@yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 20:22:54 -0700
From: Allen <allendlung@gmail.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Managing text based systems
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=j2RRj0aipyuMus1H6Ra4PONn=44_3tk+ddD2Y@mail.gmail.com>
I'm looking for any opensource software that is known for being a good
product to manage text based equipment. I'm talking about x.25 packet
switches, routers, and terminal servers. Is anybody using a product
that can be used to capture input from users and equipment in order to
create GUI inputs and outputs? It would really be nice if it is web
based.
--
Allen D. Lung
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