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The Telecom Digest for September 26, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 242 : "text" Format
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Date: 25 Sep 2011 00:31:07 -0000
From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: mobile wifi hotspots, was Strange new at&t rumors
Message-ID: <20110925003107.11737.qmail@joyce.lan>
>Last year a hotel attempted to charge me for access: it appears that
>the system detected my Ibooks AirPort Card. I did not use their
>system, ...
More likely they just charge everyone and take the charge off if
you complain. It's the same deal as the copy of USA Today in
front of your door each morning that you don't read.
R's,
John
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 12:51:48 +1000
From: David Clayton <dcstarbox-usenet@yahoo.com.au>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: mobile wifi hotspots, was Strange new at&t rumors
Message-ID: <pan.2011.09.25.00.18.47.352063@yahoo.com.au>
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:01:19 -0400, tlvp wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 08:16:17 -0700, Steven wrote:
>
>> Last year a hotel attempted to charge me for access: it appears that the
>> system detected my Ibooks AirPort Card. I did not use their system,
>> since I carry an Overdrive from Sprint and when I logged [in], I [knew]
>> I was using it and not the hotel [WiFi]. ...
>
> Unpuzzle me, please: even if the system did detect your AirPort card,
> how'd it know to link that card to your bill and not to someone else's?
>
Good question, AFAIK you usually have to log into a web page to
authenticate with Room number etc.
Since most "Smartphones" can also auto-connect to any available Wi-Fi
network then charging for those if they happen to hook up would also be an
issue.
Maybe there is a WAP in every room?
--
Regards, David.
David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:27:09 -0700
From: Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Net neutrality rules kick in November 20
Message-ID: <4E7E674D.4020104@thadlabs.com>
On 9/23/2011 8:24 PM, Bill Horne wrote:
> This is from cnet:
>
> The FCC rules--the outcome of years of debate--lay out specific Net
> neutrality principles and essentially let Internet service providers ration
> access to their networks while preventing them from discriminating against
> content that comes from competitors. The rules are more strict for wired
> broadband providers than for wireless carriers.
>
> Read more:
>
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20110468-266/net-neutrality-rules-kick-in-november-20
The article didn't cite where a copy of the rules can be found;
they're here (1.1 MB, 155 pages):
http://www.ofr.gov/OFRUpload/OFRData/2011-24259_PI.pdf
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:30:19 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@ikillspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: mobile wifi hotspots, was Strange new at&t rumors
Message-ID: <j5m07d$5a6$1@dont-email.me>
On 9/24/11 1:01 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 08:16:17 -0700, Steven wrote:
>
>> Last year a hotel attempted to charge me for access: it appears that
>> the system detected my Ibooks AirPort Card. I did not use their
>> system, since I carry an Overdrive from Sprint and when I logged [in],
>> I [knew] I was using it and not the hotel [WiFi]. ...
>
> Unpuzzle me, please: even if the system did detect your AirPort card,
> how'd it know to link that card to your bill and not to someone else's?
That was one of the questions I asked and was told each room had its own
receiver, I pointed out that even if that was a fact, then mine should
have been turned off, so if it was on it still was not my problem. plus
it could not have been that short of a range since mine at home works up
to 100 feet. I showed the manager my computer with the card and my Hot
Spot showing that it was linked to its own, I also showed him the hotels
hot spots and each one was locked and you needed a code to get it to a
allow use, by the way, the code was the room number, end of problem.
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:48:29 -0400
From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: mobile wifi hotspots, was Strange new at&t rumors
Message-ID: <wgo77hxda227.6hs6twf7z1m8.dlg@40tude.net>
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:30:19 -0700, Steven wrote:
> ... by the way, the code was the room number, ...
Ah-hah! So a clever lodger here need only log in with
an access point serving another room? Or maybe even
with any handy access point, but using as code
another room number?
Doesn't sound all that well planned out, now, does it :-) ?
Cheers, -- tlvp
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Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:25:13 +1000
From: David Clayton <dcstarbox-usenet@yahoo.com.au>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: mobile wifi hotspots, was Strange new at&t rumors
Message-ID: <pan.2011.09.25.22.25.12.711564@yahoo.com.au>
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:30:19 -0700, Steven wrote:
.......
> That was one of the questions I asked and was told each room had its own
> receiver, I pointed out that even if that was a fact, then mine should
> have been turned off, so if it was on it still was not my problem. plus it
> could not have been that short of a range since mine at home works up to
> 100 feet. I showed the manager my computer with the card and my Hot Spot
> showing that it was linked to its own, I also showed him the hotels hot
> spots and each one was locked and you needed a code to get it to a allow
> use, by the way, the code was the room number, end of problem.
So if the "Hot Spots" are not set to the same frequency (or you disable
the one in your room), then you can connect to another room and rack up
charges on their account?
--
Regards, David.
David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.
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