---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <20170303111911.GA29159@telecom.csail.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 06:19:11 -0500 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> Subject: Re: With Jews nationwide watching, the FBI works to crack the tough case of a telephone culprit On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 02:07:35PM -0500, Pete Cresswell wrote: > Per Telecom Digest Moderator: >> Of course, the feds will have obtained the local usage details (the >> "LUDS" so often mentioned in TV cop shows) to find the originating >> phone number, but that information will almost certainly point to a >> "burner" cell phone that will be found in a trash bin. > > Or a spoofed legitimate phone number used by somebody behind multiple > VOIP hops (whatever *that* is... but it's the reason cited in the > letters I get from the Pennsylvania AG's office explaining why they > cannot prosecute Do-Not-Call-List violations). Frankly, that sounds like a bureaucratic brush-off. I suggest you make some noise. > Sounds to me like the ability to trace a phone call by somebody > determined and competent is a thing of the past. That works both ways: if the feds are determined and competent enough, they CAN trace a call. Bill -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my address to write to me directly) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <u6rgbct3hk8nbomlrocard2459df12n3vu@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 14:07:35 -0500 From: Pete Cresswell <PeteCress@invalid.telecom-digest.org> Subject: Re: With Jews nationwide watching, the FBI works to crack the tough case of a telephone culprit Per HAncock4: >Of course, the feds will have obtained the local usage details (the >"LUDS" so often mentioned in TV cop shows) to find the originating >phone number, but that information will almost certainly point to a >"burner" cell phone that will be found in a trash bin. Or a spoofed legitimate phone number used by somebody behind multiple VOIP hops (whatever *that* is... but it's the reason cited in the letters I get from the Pennsylvania AG's office explaining why they cannot prosecute Do-Not-Call-List violations). Sounds to me like the ability to trace a phone call by somebody determined and competent is a thing of the past. --- Pete Cresswell ***** Moderator's Note ***** I suggest they start looking at dips into the LNP database: if the exchanges aren't yet "portable", it's easy to mark them as such temporarily. Bill Horne Moderator ------------------------------ Message-ID: <o9c4vu$4eb$1@gal.iecc.com> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 16:18:06 +0000 (UTC) From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> Subject: Re: With Jews nationwide watching, the FBI works to crack the tough case of a telephone culprit In article <20170303111911.GA29159@telecom.csail.mit.edu>, >> Or a spoofed legitimate phone number used by somebody behind multiple >> VOIP hops (whatever *that* is... but it's the reason cited in the >> letters I get from the Pennsylvania AG's office explaining why they >> cannot prosecute Do-Not-Call-List violations). > >Frankly, that sounds like a bureaucratic brush-off. I suggest you make >some noise. Unfortunately, it's real. VoIP gateways can send arbitrary junk. I have an account with a VoIP provider that happens to be in Europe, and I can send pretty much any calling number I want. R's, John ------------------------------ Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1703031027550.15164@panix5.panix.com> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 10:29:34 -0500 From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> Subject: Feds make arrest re: some of those bomb threats to Jewish facilities [DOJ press release] [snippeth] U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said: "Everyone deserves to be free from fear and discrimination based on religion, race, or ethnicity; that is fundamental to who we are as a nation. Together with the FBI and the NYPD, we have been investigating the recent threats made on Jewish Community Centers in New York and around the country. Today, we have charged Juan Thompson with allegedly stalking a former romantic interest by, among other things, making bomb threats in her name to Jewish Community Centers and to the Anti-Defamation League. Threats of violence targeting people and places based on religion or race - whatever the motivation - are unacceptable, un-American, and criminal. We are committed to pursuing and prosecuting those who foment fear and hate through such criminal threats." ====== rest: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/cyberstalking-charge-brought-manhattan-federal-court-against-missouri-man-pattern _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <dvtibc13ptobj3g9o5sn8r9d6dbncma2hv@4ax.com> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 09:06:13 -0500 From: Pete Cresswell <PeteCress@invalid.telecom-digest.org> Subject: Re: With Jews nationwide watching, the FBI works to crack the tough case of a telephone culprit Per Bill Horne: >That works both ways: if the feds are determined and competent enough, >they CAN trace a call. I have always harbored a secret suspicion that if somebody threatened a highly-enough-placed politician that they would be in jail within days. Now it looks like we might see a test of that implied ability - albeit from a different source. -- Pete Cresswell ------------------------------ ********************************************* End of telecom Digest Sat, 04 Mar 2017