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The Telecom Digest for September 01, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 236 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:

Re: Blocking Junk Calls(John David Galt)
Re: Blocking Junk Calls(Gordon Burditt)
Re: Blocking Junk Calls(Scott Dorsey)
Re: Blocking Junk Calls(Rich Greenberg)
Re: 911-only public phone(Scott Dorsey)
Re: Blocking Junk Calls(Richard)
Re: Hackers blind quantum cryptographers(Robert Bonomi)
EPIC Alert 17.16(Monty Solomon)
EPIC Alert 17.17(Monty Solomon)
AT&T Misleads FCC about 'Paid Prioritization' on the Internet (Monty Solomon)


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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 01:32:19 -0800 From: John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Blocking Junk Calls Message-ID: <i5ieo7$f2g$1@blue.rahul.net> Robert Bonomi wrote: >> I am angry at the many exceptions the law provides. And the >> politicians wonder why the citizens have no respect for them. Well, >> when they pass laws exempting themselves, what should they expect? I also. It seems to me this is the best argument for re-legalizing competing (completely separate) phone networks. > If you don't like living with the limits imposed by the Constitution. > you, unfortunately , have rather limited alternatives. The Constitution limits only *government's* powers to block communication. > the alternative to 'what we have' is something that WOULD be challenged > in the courts and would -not- survive that challenge. Whereupon we would > have -no- protection at all. We do have no protection at all, since the DNCL is completely toothless.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:49:28 -0500 From: gordonb.tqwge@burditt.org (Gordon Burditt) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Blocking Junk Calls Message-ID: <w8GdneKplJ1V5uHRnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@posted.internetamerica> >The worst is the health provider Anthem Blue Cross. They have a machine >placing automated calls about twice a day trying to reach [a patient I've >never heard of]. The machine demands to know if she is available to take >the call, and won't hear any answer except yes or no. When I say no, the >machine hangs up without giving any name or number I can contact to stop the >damn calls! I've tried their web site, but the only number there reaches a >salesman who has no idea what to do. I recommend that you say YES optionally followed by "that was a lie". From the wording you describe, you didn't say you ARE the person in question. Tell any lie you need to get to a human. If you do get to a human, complain about the constant calling. If you get an automated device spewing private health information, put the call on hold and hope that it thinks it reached the person so it can quit calling. If you do get any private health information, it might be worth tracking down this person and informing them that the insurance company is giving out their private health information. >Can anyone suggest a way to stop the calls short of driving down to their >nearest office and taking it apart with a sledge hammer? This problem ought to justify emergency cutoff of telephone service and electrical power of the offender (with missiles).
Date: 31 Aug 2010 10:02:45 -0400 From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Blocking Junk Calls Message-ID: <i5j225$9do$1@panix2.panix.com> Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> wrote: >On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:08:02 -0800, John David Galt ><jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote: >>The worst is the health provider Anthem Blue Cross. They have a machine >>placing automated calls about twice a day trying to reach [a patient I've >>never heard of]. The machine demands to know if she is available to take >>the call, and won't hear any answer except yes or no. When I say no, the >>machine hangs up without giving any name or number I can contact to stop the >>damn calls! I've tried their web site, but the only number there reaches a >>salesman who has no idea what to do. >> >>Can anyone suggest a way to stop the calls short of driving down to their >>nearest office and taking it apart with a sledge hammer? > >Chane your telephone number. Record a couple of the calls. Take them to small claims court. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:43:55 +0000 (UTC) From: richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Blocking Junk Calls Message-ID: <i5j7vr$sf1$1@reader1.panix.com> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:08:02 -0800, John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote: >The worst is the health provider Anthem Blue Cross. They have a machine >placing automated calls about twice a day trying to reach [a patient I've >never heard of]. The machine demands to know if she is available to take >the call, and won't hear any answer except yes or no. When I say no, the >machine hangs up without giving any name or number I can contact to stop the >damn calls! I've tried their web site, but the only number there reaches a >salesman who has no idea what to do. > >Can anyone suggest a way to stop the calls short of driving down to their >nearest office and taking it apart with a sledge hammer? Subscribe to "call block" (or whatever telco calls it in your area). -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero & Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red & Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Date: 31 Aug 2010 09:59:54 -0400 From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: 911-only public phone Message-ID: <i5j1sq$33h$1@panix2.panix.com> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >On Aug 27, 9:11 pm, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote: >> >I stopped at a convenience store earlier this morning and noticed >> >something I had never seen before, a 911-only public phone mounted >> >on the front of the building. >> >> They're pretty common as replacements for fire alarm pull boxes.  We >> have one on the front of our volunteer fire department, in case someone >> comes by when nobody's there. > >The above usage surprises me. > >A telecomm administrator told me paying the phoneco for a conventional >public pay phone was cheaper than installing a "hot line" to the >police or fire dept. People still ocassionally use pay phones so that >revenue helps defray the cost. Further, it gives the public some >convenience which isn't available with a "hot line" type of phone. People are willing to pay more money for the 911-only phones (some of which are actually on a POTS line with an autodialer built into the phone) because they are worried that a payphone will attract drug dealers. This is really no longer a problem now that all the drug dealers have cellphones. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:21:22 -0700 From: Richard <rng@richbonnie.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Blocking Junk Calls Message-ID: <65lq769r21fcf8hh9deuo8189k4q74ib7u@4ax.com> On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:53:37 -0700, Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com> wrote: >I have noticed more fake CID and it does no good to be on the Do Not >Call List, there appears to be little enforcement and none on calls from >the Moon!!! I got a junk call yesterday. The name portion of the caller ID said "PHONE SCAM". A least they are honest about that! I let the machine answer, but they did not leave a message.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:28:49 -0500 From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Hackers blind quantum cryptographers Message-ID: <U5OdnXFtYeKc--DRnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications> In article <p0624084ec8a0b7df6c6d@[192.168.1.70]>, Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote: > >Hackers blind quantum cryptographers > >Lasers crack commercial encryption systems, leaving no trace. > >Zeeya Merali >Published online 29 August 2010 | Nature | doi:10.1038/news.2010.436 > >http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100829/full/news.2010.436.html > > >***** Moderator's Note ***** > >This is out of my league. Any comments from those that know more will be >welcome. I've just gone through the first article so far, but given that the methodology causes the receiver to function as only a 'classical' detector, AND that there is no way (not established) for the receiver to detect that it is not operating in 'quantum' mode, then everything else follows. At a _first/cursory_ glance, it looks like this should be relatively easy to defeat -- by injecting some 'pre-tampered-with' bits at the originating side. On a direct receive, they'd show tampered, but on a 'blinded' detector they'd show good. You'd have a data stream that was 'too good to be true', in effect. :)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:05:56 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: EPIC Alert 17.16 Message-ID: <p06240872c8a33b26c2da@[192.168.1.70]> ======================================================================= E P I C A l e r t ======================================================================= Volume 17.16 August 16, 2010
Published by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) Washington, D.C.
http://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1716.htmlhttp://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1716.html "Defend Privacy. Support EPIC." http://epic.org/donatehttp://epic.org/donate ======================================================================= Table of Contents ======================================================================= [1] Feds Admit that Body Scanner Machines Store Photos [2] EPIC submits amicus in NASA v. Nelson [3] Maine Law on Prescription Privacy Upheld [4] Elena Kagan Confirmed as Supreme Court Justice [5] Federal Appeals Court Requires Warrant for GPS Tracking [6] News in Brief [7] EPIC Book Review: "Cyberwar" [8] Upcoming Conferences and Events ... http://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1716.html
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:10:33 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: EPIC Alert 17.17 Message-ID: <p06240871c8a33a6f97f0@[192.168.1.70]> ======================================================================= E P I C A l e r t ======================================================================= Volume 17.17 August 31, 2010
Published by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) Washington, D.C.
http://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1717.htmlhttp://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1717.html "Defend Privacy. Support EPIC." http://epic.org/donatehttp://epic.org/donate ======================================================================= Table of Contents ======================================================================= [1] Senators Question Full Body Scanners, Highlight Health Risks [2] EPIC Launches Body Scanner Incident Report Page [3] Facebook "Places" Embeds Privacy Risks [4] Agency Reconsiders Medical Breach Notification Rule [5] Lawsuit Filed for Travel Surveillance Records [6] News in Brief [7] EPIC Book Review: "Islands of Privacy" [8] Upcoming Conferences and Events ... http://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1717.htmlhttp://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1717.html
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:54:45 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: AT&T Misleads FCC about 'Paid Prioritization' on the Internet Message-ID: <p06240876c8a344e40b74@[192.168.1.70]> AT&T Misleads FCC about 'Paid Prioritization' on the Internet FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Date: August 31, 2010 Contact: Jenn Ettinger, 202-265-1490 x 35 WASHINGTON - AT&T has filed a confusing and misleading letter with the FCC in an attempt to justify charging content companies for priority access to its Internet subscribers. In the letter, AT&T conflates "paid prioritization" - the anti-consumer practice of speeding up and slowing down Internet traffic according to which service provider pays more - with far more accepted business network management practices. Free Press and other Net Neutrality proponents oppose discriminatory "paid prioritization," not these other arrangements. ... http://www.freepress.net/press-release/2010/8/31/att-misleads-fcc-about-%E2%80%98paid-prioritization%E2%80%99-internet Re: Preserving the Open Internet, GN Docket No. 09-191; Framework for Broadband Internet Service, GN Docket No. 10-127 Robert W. Quinn, Jr. AT&T http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7020910396
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