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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:46:24 -0500
From: Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: EXchanges (was: area code named beer)
Message-ID: <4E6F4290.4040808@annsgarden.com>
Joseph Pine <josephpine@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:54:51 +0000 (UTC)
> To: redacted@invalid.telecom-digest.org
> Subject: Re: area code named beer
> Neal McLain <nmclain@annsgarden.com
> wrote in
> news:d004cb5b-0868-4ad9-af74-171e312a1968@x12g2000yql.googlegroups.com
[snip]
> The Telephone EXchange Name Project website has a lot of
> material on the subject of exchange names, which might be
> of interest.
> http://ourwebhome.com/TENP/TENproject.html
And in New York...
http://ourwebhome.com/TENP/Times.html
http://tinyurl.com/5r7o246
http://tinyurl.com/6ke8xp2
Neal McLain
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: EXchanges (was: area code named beer)
Message-ID: <0689dcce-3315-43ce-9138-c9b9fc6af914@m5g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 13, 7:46~am, Neal McLain <nmcl...@annsgarden.com> wrote:
> ~> The Telephone EXchange Name Project website has a lot of
> ~> material on the subject of exchange names, which might be
> ~> of interest.
> ~>http://ourwebhome.com/TENP/TENproject.html
>
> And in New York...
> http://ourwebhome.com/TENP/Times.html
> http://tinyurl.com/5r7o246
> http://tinyurl.com/6ke8xp2
As an aside, in some cases NYC had 8 digit phone numbers, such as
HOllis 5-10254. A manual exchange could have 10,500 numbers. Also,
if the phone number had a party line suffix, eg. HOllis 5-9242J, the J
was dialed, too. Literature on the panel exchange in NYC confirms the
registers could hold and pass 8 digits. I don't know if that applied
in other big cities.
When calling from a dial exchange to a manual exchange, the desired
number appeared on a display panel in front of the manual operator.
She merely plugged into that number.
Manual service continued in NYC until the early 1950s. A late 1940s
telephone strike steeply reduced service to manual exchanges--the
public was asked to make emergency calls only.
In the early 1950s, NYC subscribers could dial 'toll' calls in Long
Island instead of going through the operator. Instead of being billed
10c or 15c for such calls on an itemized basis, the message unit meter
was incremented accordingly for distance and time (the meters already
existed to do that for local calls). Some subscribers complained
about the loss of itemized billing, but it undoubtedly saved the phone
company a lot of clerical processing.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:55:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: AT&T advert from 1970s re: World Trace Center
Message-ID: <j4m9mr$fn3$1@leila.iecc.com>
>There was a Verizon CO down the street that had its windows and part
>of a wall blown out.
Yes, this is the source of the myth that the Internet is more
resilient than the phone system. By sheer coincidence, there is a
major NYT (now VZ) central office in the VZ headquarters building at
140 West St, across the street from the WTC, which was badly damaged
when the WTC buildings collapsed, also due to water in underground
vaults, seriously disrupting both voice and data circuits. The major
Internet hub was (and is) 60 Hudson St, the old WU building, which was
far enough away to be undamaged, so Internet service was OK to the
extent it didn't depend on circuits going through 140 West St. If the
buildings happened to be swapped, the meme would be that the Internet
collapses in a disaster and the phone network is rock solid.
R's,
John
***** Moderator's Note *****
Oh, come now, John: EVERYBODY knows that the Internet was designed to
withstand a nuclear war!
Bill Horne
Moderator
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:05:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: AT&T advert from 1970s re: World Trace Center
Message-ID: <98e60e1f-a8df-44f1-9eef-b8f773488255@19g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 12, 8:55~pm, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:
> . . . ~The major
> Internet hub was (and is) 60 Hudson St, the old WU building, which was
> far enough away to be undamaged, so Internet service was OK to the
> extent it didn't depend on circuits going through 140 West St. ~If the
> buildings happened to be swapped, the meme would be that the Internet
> collapses in a disaster and the phone network is rock solid.
Ironic that the hub of message record communications is the Western
Union building, which used to handle message record telegraph
traffic. As discussed before, the old Western Union company had high
hopes to be a big player in data communications, since after all, that
was their primary business. I still wonder, given the benefit of
hindsight, if anything could've been done differently to save the
company and let it be part of the data comm revolution. (There is
some suggestion FCC unfairly favored the Bell System over Western
Union in some regulatory decisions).
The former long time AT&T HQ was at 195 Broadway, not far away. The
original AT&T is gone, too, having been bought out by one of the Baby
Bells. Do they still have a presence in Bernardsville, NJ, where
their network communications center used to be? Is the statue of
Golden Boy still out there?
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:26:52 -0500
From: jsw@ivgate.omahug.org
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: area code named beer
Message-ID: <34095bb9bc988d64f32ecc7387c61087.squirrel@ivgate.omahug.org>
>I'd like to know the last new name that was assigned to an
>exchange. Probably done in the 1960s. In some places, the
>transition was done slowly, for example, there was a TUrner 4 (884),
>but when 885 was opened, it was given 885 instead of TU 5); lots of
>examples like that (ORchard 3, 6, 7 were joined by 671).
Part of the transition, at least in the NYC area, was the inclusion of
arbitrary two-letter office codes which had no name. Mid 1960s, IIRC.
The one I remember best was LT1-xxxx. Probably the best known number out
of that office was the main number for WABC-TV, LT1-7777, pronounced
'Ell-Tee-one ...'.
I also vaguely remember an 'XX' office code, letter X, as in dial 9, not a
notation for an arbitrary digit.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:19:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joseph Singer <joeofseattle@yahoo.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: AT&T advert from 1970s re: World Trace Center
Message-ID: <1315934396.84520.YahooMailClassic@web161502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:39:43 -0700 (PDT)HAncock4 wrote:
>> I know some people who until that time did not have cell phones.
>> After 9/11 they got them for emergencies.
Well, as other threads have indicated that doesn't always work either
since after a major event everyone goes to use the network and because
of the load on the network your call fails.
The more likely reason that people were getting more cellphones in
2001 is that they were becoming cheaper and it became "normal" to have
a cellphone since you could have a phone for as little as a few
dollars a month.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: ANCIENT telephone transmission
Message-ID: <d30999bb-5d48-41cf-bff5-ff0647e2f88d@k15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 7, 11:36~pm, mattrix <mattrix3.remove-t...@and-this-
too.gmail.com> wrote:
> The historians tell me that 600 mile lines were common, and that they
> carried multiple conversations using Frequency Division Multiplexing.
It should be noted that implementations of new technology back then
often had three levels:
--Initial experiment. This would be making a long distance call over
a long circuit, the first transmission of television, the Morris IL
ESS, making a working transistor, etc. It is a long way from
successful experiment to actual commercial installation.
--Commercial installation: a regular installation for paying
customers, such as the Susc. NJ ESS, public TV broadcasting, use of
transistors in production productions.
--Widespread usage: It takes time after the first commercial
installation for a new product to become widespread. For instance,
the Bell System continued using some open-wire transmission into the
1970s before more modern methods replaced it. While commercial TV
came out in 1940, then more so in 1948, it took time before all cities
had it.
In the case of early long distance transmission, the Bell System may
have had a successful test of a long distance conversation early on,
but it took time before all the elements necessary to make that happen
were developed to an adequate level to be affordable, reliable, etc to
use in real service. For instance, many improvements to vacuum tubes
were required to make repeaters possible--a higher vacuum, physical
arrangement of the components, materials used in the components. For
example, considerable experimentation was required to develop the
optimum metal alloy of the grid and filament, as well as techniques to
manufacture those components in quanity.
When the transistor was developed, it took about ten years to
understand its operating principles, figure out the optimum materials
and 'doping', and development high-volume reliable production
manufacturing. It took a few more years to get the cost down below
tubes (there were plenty of consumer electronic products of the early
1960s made of tubes, not transistors).
The first volume of the Bell Labs history (op cit) goes into detail
about all of these issues.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:28:49 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Whoa - Apple Wins a 3D Display & Imaging System Patent Stunner
Message-ID: <p0624084cca9550e6e3a4@[10.0.1.8]>
Whoa - Apple Wins a 3D Display & Imaging System Patent Stunner
Patently Apple
September 13, 2011
The US Patent and Trademark Office officially published a series of
13 newly granted patents for Apple Inc. today and one was a real
stunner. Today's report focuses on this advanced 3D display and
imaging system that packs one hell of a wallop. Apple's patent covers
a wild 3D system that could generate an invisible space in front of
the user that could allow them to work with holographic images or
project their hands onto a screen in front of them to manipulate
switches or move pieces of virtual paper or parts of a presentation.
One could only image how this could be applied to 3D gaming, business
or medical applications in the future. This is Apple's second major
revelation about such an advanced 3D system and many supporting
patent applications would suggest that the system is progressing
quite well in Apple's research labs. The good news, is that future
iOS devices will be one of the drivers behind this new beast. This is
definitely one of Apple's coolest ideas to date.
...
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2011/09/whoa-apple-wins-a-3d-display-imaging-system-patent-stunner.html
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:07:29 -0400
From: Fred Goldstein <fgoldstein.SeeSigSpambait@wn2.wn.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: AT&T advert from 1970s re: World Trace Center
Message-ID: <20110913200730.AB522348BD@mailout.easydns.com>
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Wes Leatherock
<wleathus@yahoo.com> wrote,
> > Were any secondary or primary central offices impacted in the WTC
> > area by the attack that affected telephone service? I know cell
> > phones were overwhelmed, but I'm not sure about the impact on land
> > lines (given the calamity, they may have been overwhelmed, too.)
>
>Weren't a number of C.O's serving customers in the WTC on several
>floors of= the WTC? Surely they were destroyed, too.
From a 1999 edition of the LERG,
NYCMNYST was the CLLI code for 2 World Trade Center. It had three
Verizon entities listed there:
NYCMST00W - an old data switch
NYCMSTCG0 - A 1AESS (analog) switch
NYCMSTDS0 - A DMS-100
I'm guessing that the 1A was retired before 2001, quite possibly
before 1999 (the LERG sometimes has old entries left behind).
NYCMNYWS was the West St. CO, next to WTC, which was severely damaged
by falling debris. It had a whole heap of switches in it. Not to
mention NYCMNYJV, 1 World Financial Center, also next door to
WTC, And possibly others whose street addresses were not "World
Trade Center" but were impacted.
--
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ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/
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