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Hub to get early look at next-level Web link / To test high-speed 4G cellular network
Re: Hub to get early look at next-level Web link / To test high-speed 4G cellular network
Re: Hub to get early look at next-level Web link / To test high-speed 4G cellular network
Re: articles on decline of pay phones
Re: End of a print publication
Re: End of a print publication
Re: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
Re: End of a print publication
Re: End of a print publication
Re: Sending ringing current toward a CO on a dial tone trunk
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:50:42 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Hub to get early look at next-level Web link / To test high-speed 4G cellular network
Message-ID: <p06240846c6a9ae5f757a@[10.0.1.3]>
Hub to get early look at next-level Web link
To test high-speed 4G cellular network
By Hiawatha Bray, Globe Staff | August 13, 2009
Before the year is out, Boston residents will have a new way to get
high-speed Internet service: with their cellphones.
Verizon Wireless has selected Boston and Seattle as the first two US
cities to test its new wireless data service, with speeds five to 10
times faster than the service used today by such popular handsets as
Apple Inc.'s iPhone.
The new network could mean big changes in the ways people use their
smartphones or laptop computers, at home and on the road. Today's
networks, known as 3G, are good enough for checking e-mail or
visiting websites, but they're too slow for high-quality video or
real-time video gaming. They can't match the speed of the hard-wired
Internet services offered by telephone and cable TV companies.
Verizon Wireless's new network, called 4G, will have the ability to
display crystal-clear videos and allow users to play complex
multiplayer games, or hold two-way videoconferences. Consumers might
replace broadband Internet services from cable and phone companies
with the new wireless service, in the same way some have ditched
their traditional, hard-wired telephone lines in favor of cellphones.
Verizon Wireless will not say what it plans to charge for the new
service, or reveal the speeds it will provide consumers. News of 4G's
debut cities came in a Verizon Wireless conference call for investors
on July 27, and the company said it is not yet ready to speak
publicly about it.
...
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2009/08/13/in_test_of_4g_network_hub_to_get_early_look_at_next_level_web_link/
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:37:36 -0700
From: AES <siegman@stanford.edu>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Hub to get early look at next-level Web link / To test high-speed 4G cellular network
Message-ID: <siegman-552A59.11370613082009@news.stanford.edu>
In article <p06240846c6a9ae5f757a@[10.0.1.3]>,
Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:
>
> Verizon Wireless's new network, called 4G, will have the ability to
>
Is "4G" basically the generic name for a new (or at least emerging)
standard -- or does Verizon have some special rights in that name?
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:17:38 GMT
From: "wdag" <wgeary@verizon.net>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Hub to get early look at next-level Web link / To test high-speed 4G cellular network
Message-ID: <6i0hm.1999$Jg.750@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"AES" <siegman@stanford.edu> wrote in message
news:siegman-552A59.11370613082009@news.stanford.edu...
> In article <p06240846c6a9ae5f757a@[10.0.1.3]>,
> Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Verizon Wireless's new network, called 4G, will have the ability to
> >
>
> Is "4G" basically the generic name for a new (or at least emerging)
> standard -- or does Verizon have some special rights in that name?
>
4G is the "generic" name for new high-speed digital (i.e. video) cellular
service. What Verizon is _not_ talking about? Who knows...
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:57:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: articles on decline of pay phones
Message-ID: <7a05ce93-b1ee-4e2c-90e2-1e14f9491951@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>
On Aug 12, 8:05 pm, "wdag" <wge...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > (I thought there was a law that if someone asks you to call
> > 911 for an emergency, you were required to do so.)
>
> The story _doesn't_ say the robbery victim asked the gas station
> attendant(s) to "call 911", it says they asked to _use their phone_ i.e.
> either come behind the bulletproof partition - where the attendant can be
> more easily robbed - or (more likely) be handed the attendant's cellphone -
> and disappear with it. Any law requiring someone to make themselves a
> potential crime victim is unenforceable.
Sorry to nitpick, but yes, the story did say the man asked the clerks
to call the police and they refused that request too.
I could certainly understand the reluctance of a store clerk to allow
someone in the booth or behind the counter. Indeed, such store clerks
(eg late night gas station, convenience store) suffer a high rate of
occupational death because of holdups.
But if someone comes in and asks the clerk to call 911 for them; I
think the clerks ought to do that, and may even be required to
(somewhere I read that).
I don't know the neighborhood where the incident took place, but in
some areas the store clerks have very little interaction with the
public other than taking money for a purchase. They offer no help in
making in a purchase (don't ask them if they carry a particular soda
or candy bar); and there may be a language barrier as well. I
personally do not like dealing with stores that have such clerks; even
in a safer neighborhood without the partitians they can be rather
rude.
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:22:33 -0700
From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: End of a print publication
Message-ID: <JkVgm.111587$9P.75446@newsfe08.iad>
Steven Lichter wrote:
> I just go my July/August issue of Telephony. In it the editor tells
> everyone that this will be the last print issue after 108 year. When I
> starting for California Water Telephone (GTE) in 1967 I used to read my
> supervisors issue, and was able to lean a lot of what was happening;
> from what I remember is was pretty good sized with a lot of ads. Over
> the years and in the last few it has gotten spammer with each issue.
> They will continue with the on line issues and a new print wil be called
> Connected Planet. I have had my own issue for the last 30 years, and
> I think I have all of those in boxes in the garage: I have looked at
> older issues over the and have seen the changes, gone are the ads from
> Automatic Electric for step stuff and Western Electric ads.
Wasn't 1967 the year that California Water and Telephone (Cal Drip and
Tinkle my dad called it) was absorbed by General Telephone? I grew up
in Monrovia, which was CWT territory. We didn't get a dial office until
1950.
As I recall, CWT had a large operating territory, although it was not
contiguous; northern San Fernando Valley, then skip to Sierra Madre,
north side of Arcadia, Monrovia/Duarte, then skip out to
Redlands/Banning/Palm Srings area. Any other CWT territory prior to the
General Telephone takeover?
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:21:48 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: End of a print publication
Message-ID: <h61f2o$c47$1@news.eternal-september.org>
Sam Spade wrote:
> Steven Lichter wrote:
>> I just go my July/August issue of Telephony. In it the editor tells
>> everyone that this will be the last print issue after 108 year. When
>> I starting for California Water Telephone (GTE) in 1967 I used to read
>> my supervisors issue, and was able to lean a lot of what was
>> happening; from what I remember is was pretty good sized with a lot of
>> ads. Over the years and in the last few it has gotten spammer with
>> each issue. They will continue with the on line issues and a new print
>> wil be called Connected Planet. I have had my own issue for the
>> last 30 years, and I think I have all of those in boxes in the
>> garage: I have looked at older issues over the and have seen the
>> changes, gone are the ads from Automatic Electric for step stuff and
>> Western Electric ads.
>
> Wasn't 1967 the year that California Water and Telephone (Cal Drip and
> Tinkle my dad called it) was absorbed by General Telephone? I grew up
> in Monrovia, which was CWT territory. We didn't get a dial office until
> 1950.
>
> As I recall, CWT had a large operating territory, although it was not
> contiguous; northern San Fernando Valley, then skip to Sierra Madre,
> north side of Arcadia, Monrovia/Duarte, then skip out to
> Redlands/Banning/Palm Springs area. Any other CWT territory prior to the
> General Telephone takeover?
>
General System bought CWT ad 2 others in 1966 and 67, but let them run
on there own thru 1967, I was sent to basic CO school, but could not use
most of my training for a couple of years. I was one of the last under
CWT and was stuck in a 7 year top while others were under a 5 year top.
Contel took much longer to merge.
--
The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, inc, A Rot in Hell. Co.
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:07:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
Message-ID: <h61a87$3ic$2@news.albasani.net>
jwillis@remove.drlogick.com wrote:
>Being Deaf I was looking forward to using the 'transcription' feature
>of Google Voice.
The feature is limited to voice mail, not live telephone conversation.
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:34:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: End of a print publication
Message-ID: <35982d74-ce3a-4af0-9ec0-fd41673d5014@o6g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>
On Aug 12, 9:15 pm, Steven Lichter <diespamm...@ikillspammers.com>
wrote:
> I have had my own issue for the last 30 years, and
> I think I have all of those in boxes in the garage: I have looked at
> older issues over the and have seen the changes, gone are the ads from
> Automatic Electric for step stuff and Western Electric ads.
I believe the following request would be a great deal of work, but
would it be possible to scan a few of the oldest issues for the
Telecom Archives? (They have the Western Union Tech Review and other
neat old documents).
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:10:15 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: End of a print publication
Message-ID: <h62ah5$7ff$1@news.eternal-september.org>
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Aug 12, 9:15 pm, Steven Lichter <diespamm...@ikillspammers.com>
> wrote:
>> I have had my own issue for the last 30 years, and
>> I think I have all of those in boxes in the garage: I have looked at
>> older issues over the and have seen the changes, gone are the ads from
>> Automatic Electric for step stuff and Western Electric ads.
>
> I believe the following request would be a great deal of work, but
> would it be possible to scan a few of the oldest issues for the
> Telecom Archives? (They have the Western Union Tech Review and other
> neat old documents).
>
I'll e-mail the publisher and see what the say, and then dig out my old
flat bed scanner and give it a try. I wonder if they have on line archive?
--
The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, inc, A Rot in Hell. Co.
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:04:55 -0500
From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi)
To: redacted@invalid.telecom.csail.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Sending ringing current toward a CO on a dial tone trunk
Message-ID: <raKdnTjL9bgq2hnXnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@posted.nuvoxcommunications>
In article <20090812163118.GA688@telecom.csail.mit.edu>,
Telecom digest moderator <telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom.csail.mit.edu> wrote:
>This is an unusual question, so please bear with me.
>
>Once of the readers has asked for help interfacing a "Local
>Battery/Local Magneto" PBX with the PSTN, and I'm trying to think
>"outside the cubicle", and come up with a solution that doesn't
>require spending a lot of money.
Depends what you consider 'a lot' <grin>
Interfacing a common-battery system to a local one _is_ going to take
a fair amount of 'glue' hardware.
I'd probably look at using an Asterisk PBX, with FXS cards to connect to
the PSTN, and E&M cards as part of the interface to the magneto PBX.
Would need some (relatively) minimal additional outboard hardware to:
1) detect the magneto signal, and provide an 'interrupt' to a custom
line handler module.
2) provide isolation/transformer coupling of the divergent battery sources.
3) open/close the talk path when indicated.
Items (1) & (3) could be probably handled by something like an AWC "GP-3" I/O
board (<http://www.awce.com/gp3.htm>).
Item (2) could be handled with opto-isolators, or maybe a 1:1 transformer with
a series cap. on each side. May have to add amplification and/or attenuation,
to get the audio levels right.
Can probably be done for something in the low four-figure range, all in.
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