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The Telecom Digest for September 14, 2012
Volume 31 : Issue 217 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Major outage in West Glacier, Montana (tlvp)
Re: Major outage in West Glacier, Montana (Michael D. Sullivan)
Re: Problem using modem with phone on T junction (tlvp)
Why the iPhone 5 on Verizon and Sprint Won't Juggle Calls and Data (Monty Solomon)

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:48:23 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Major outage in West Glacier, Montana Message-ID: <qo4g1xgpv7vp.9lbnn73lnx21$.dlg@40tude.net> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:02:07 -0600, Bill Horne wrote: > The entire phone system is out of service in West Glacier, Montana Local copper loop, cable, satellite, cellular, Clear, Vonage and the like, ... everything ? So your post to c.d.t. came in through FidoNet over s/w Ham Radio :-) ? Anyway, kudos for getting through, however you did it! Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:13:44 -0400 From: "Michael D. Sullivan" <mds@camsul.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Major outage in West Glacier, Montana Message-ID: <CA+K-LfaP7p1eg1=LwPo8nLc_QaL59z5UBc7bigezaE5X-VR+tg@mail.gmail.com> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:02:07 -0600 Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> wrote, > in Message-ID: <k2r0ou$hmq$1@dont-email.me>: > > >The entire phone system is out of service in West Glacier, Montana. The > >grocery store, restaurants, the Post Office and my phone are all out of > >order, and everyone is saying "fiber cut". > > > >I don't have dialtone, so that means we're on a remote and the umbilical > >was cut: I don't remember which remotes have some "local" dialtone > >capability, but this isn't one of them. No 911, no nothing. > > > >Someone, please tell me what the criteria are for a "Major" outage that > >must be reported to the FCC. Does anyone know where I can check? How > >long before Centurylink has to declare it? > 47 CFR Part 4 is where the rules are. The criteria for reporting depend on the technology. For wireline outages, reporting is required within 120 minutes of an outage of at least 30 minutes that potentially affects at least 900k user minutes, affects at least 1350 DS3 minutes, potentially affects any special offices and facilities, or potentially affects a 911 special facility. 47 CFR 4.9(f). No, you can't check. Reports are confidential. -- Michael D. Sullivan Bethesda, MD
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:40:05 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Problem using modem with phone on T junction Message-ID: <opsr3w7wlgu5$.z360uwllnyif.dlg@40tude.net> On 12 Sep 2012 02:25:06 -0300, Mike Spencer wrote: > tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> writes: > >> On 08 Sep 2012 17:39:08 -0300, Mike Spencer wrote: >> >>> I used ATH on the modem to drop the call - >>> but this makes no difference. >> >> You did issue a Hayes escape sequence +++ and then wait 1000 milliseconds >> before issuing the on-hook-please command ATH, right? Otherwise, ... . > > Yes, yes. The modem was working properly, failed in daily service. > I'm as sure as anyone who's not a hardware wonk can be that it was > failed hardware. Hence the post to suggest failed hardware to the OP. Sorry, Mike, I just had to make sure that no stone had been left unturned. Think the OP used that +++ [wait] ATH [enter] correctly as well? Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:17:22 -0400 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Why the iPhone 5 on Verizon and Sprint Won't Juggle Calls and Data Message-ID: <p062408bfcc7827e78d3a@[10.0.1.6]> Why the iPhone 5 on Verizon and Sprint Won't Juggle Calls and Data By BRIAN X. CHEN SEPTEMBER 13, 2012 A lot has changed in Apple's new iPhone. But with the Verizon Wireless and Sprint versions of the iPhone 5, there's something that will remain the same from the old model: The phone still won't be able to place a call and handle data activity over the cellular network at the same time. Older Verizon and Sprint smartphones on 3G networks were not able to handle simultaneous calls and data because of a limitation in CDMA, the 3G technology that those networks use. But now some Verizon 4G LTE smartphones will let you stay on a phone call while looking up something in an app or checking e-mail. So why not the iPhone 5? Brenda Raney, a Verizon Wireless spokeswoman, said it was Apple's decision to design the iPhone 5 so that customers could make voice calls and do Internet activity simultaneously only over Wi-Fi, not over Verizon's cell network. "The iPhone 5 is designed to allow customers to make voice calls on the Verizon Wireless network and surf the Web on Wi-Fi," she said in an e-mail. "It was an Apple decision." The explanation for this, it turns out, is complicated. The technology in 4G LTE networks does not currently handle voice transmissions; it only does data. So when you place a phone call on a 4G LTE smartphone, it's actually rolling back to the carrier's older second- or third-generation network, according to AnandTech, a Web publication that does deep analysis on hardware. ... http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-calls-data/
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