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Date: 26 Aug 2012 18:36:38 -0000 From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Jury Awards $1 Billion to Apple in Samsung Patent Case Message-ID: <20120826183638.31538.qmail@joyce.lan> >What I found most surprising about this case is that these companies >don't have cross-licensing arrangements. I thought that was how most >big companies, each having extensive portfolios of patents, avoided >zillions of patent-infringement cases among themselves. Cross-licensing is indeed common, but it's also common to hold back patents that a company thinks are particularly important. >Didn't Samsung also counter-sue Apple over patents on the wireless >technology? Are we still waiting for the verdict on that? No, the jury ruled against Samsung on all of them. *Moderator Note: per another submission, Samsung did sue Apple in S. Korea, and, in -that- case, it was held that Apple did infringe on Samsung patents, and that Samsung did not copy Apple's "look and feel". According to the other reportage, the S. Korea ruling came down 'a couple of days' before the U.S. verdict.
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:45:18 +0000 (UTC) From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Jury Awards $1 Billion to Apple in Samsung Patent Case Message-ID: <k1dgae$3bn$2@reader1.panix.com> In <barmar-DC8322.10321925082012@news.eternal-september.org> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> writes: [snippeth] >> That is not a big financial blow to Samsung, one of the world's >> largest electronics companies. But the decision could essentially >> force it and other smartphone makers to redesign their products to be >> less Apple-like, or risk further legal defeats. >Or just pay licensing fees to Apple. >What I found most surprising about this case is that these companies >don't have cross-licensing arrangements. I thought that was how most >big companies, each having extensive portfolios of patents, avoided >zillions of patent-infringement cases among themselves. >Didn't Samsung also counter-sue Apple over patents on the wireless >technology? Are we still waiting for the verdict on that? Samsung had a similar lawsuit going on in... South Korea. And curiously enough, that decision came out a couple of days prior to the one here in the US. Oh, and that decision mostly favored Samsung. [USA Today] South Korea's Samsung won a home court ruling in its global smartphone battle against Apple on Friday when judges in Seoul said the company didn't copy the look and feel of the U.S. company's iPhone, and that Apple infringed on Samsung's wireless technology. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/story/2012-08-23/apple-samsung-lawsuit/57260602/1 danny "lots of lawyers will get plenty rich here" burstein -- _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:21:16 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Study says drivers, not cellphones, pose the accident risk Message-ID: <p06240833cc61e85fc31b@[10.0.1.2]> Cellphones' role in crashes doubted Study says drivers, not cellphones, pose the accident risk By Hiawatha Bray | GLOBE STAFF AUGUST 27, 2012 Don't blame the technology. For those who argue that a ban on cellphone use while driving will make highways safer, there's bad news: People who chat behind the wheel often drive more aggressively even after they hang up, according to a study from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, "The people who are more willing to frequently engage in cellphone use are higher-risk drivers, independent of the phone," said Bryan Reimer, associate director of MIT's New England University Transportation Center. "It's not just a subtle difference with those willing to pick up the phone. This is a big difference." Reimer and a team of MIT researchers studied the behavior of 108 Greater Boston drivers. About half acknowledged frequent phone use when driving; the rest said they rarely used their phones behind the wheel. ... http://bostonglobe.com/business/2012/08/26/not-cellphone-but-driver-that-high-risk-not-cellphone-but-driver-that-high-risk/nVKDgqQTnn91287ZZ30v7N/story.html?s_campaign=8315
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