---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <pkj05e$8hm$1@dont-email.me> Date: 9 Aug 2018 22:18:07 -0500 From: "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> Subject: Re: New Jersey gets new area code On 8/6/2018 12:25 PM, HAncock4 wrote: > Fast forward to today, it seems most callers have cell phones which > require ten digit dialing and also have speed call, so the ten digit > dialing is not a burden. My cell phones don't require 10 digit dialing. Same with my VoIP, though I have no way to know what happens once the dialing gets on the other side of the VoIP server. But we don't have overlays. I believe whether 10 are required or not depends on your state's PUC. If there are overlays, there will be a lot of political pressure (from the "new" LEC) to require 10 for all calls so they won't be at a disadvantage. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20180810181928.GA4649@telecom.csail.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 14:19:28 -0400 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> Subject: Who owns a consumers TCPA consent? I'm here at Innovista Law, home of the TCPA Defense Force. I'm sitting with TCPA Attorney David Carter. So one of the questions we get asked, David, is, first of all, in text message marketing you have to get consent to text message your customers. Now what happens if that business wants to maybe sell that list of phone numbers or the business goes out of business or maybe somebody acquires that business? What happens to the consent from those consumers and kinda what are the legalities around that I guess under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act? https://www.tatango.com/resources/tcpa-videos/who-owns-a-consumers-tcpa-consent/ -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my email address to write to me directly) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1808080016210.14302@panix5.panix.com> Date: 8 Aug 2018 00:17:57 -0400 From: "danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> Subject: NJ Court to fone spammers: lawsuit against you continues [Law Journal] Judge Won't Put Marketing Call Suits on Hold for Pending FCC Rules By Charles Toutant August 06, 2018 at 04:09 PM A federal judge in Camden has ruled that two Telephone Consumer Protection Act suits against Freedom Mortgage Corp. should not be stayed while the Federal Communications Commission develops guidance on what constitutes an automated telephone dialing system under the statute. The plaintiffs in the pair of cases have plausibly alleged that Freedom contacted them on their mobile phones, U.S. District Judge Jerome Simandle of the District of New Jersey said in his Aug. 2 rulings denying the defendant's motions to dismiss. ===== rest (subscription required): <https://www.law.com/njlawjournal/2018/08/06/judge-wont-put-marketing-call-suits-on-hold-for-pending-fcc-rules> However, it seems there might be a copy on my virtual and very messy desktop: http://www.dburstein.com/nj-court-tcpa.txt _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] ------------------------------ Message-ID: <b673ecdb-468f-4039-950b-f056b925fef3@googlegroups.com> Date: 6 Aug 2018 10:33:33 -0700 From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> Subject: Re: $50 a month for 1Mbps: How AT&T and Verizon rip off DSL customers On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 11:58:15 AM UTC-4, Bill Horne wrote: > AT&T and Verizon force copper customers to pay fiber-level prices. > > By Jon Brodkin > > Tens of millions of people in the AT&T and Verizon service territories > can only buy slow DSL Internet from the companies, yet they often have > to pay the same price as fiber customers who get some of the fastest > broadband speeds in the US. > > That's the conclusion of a new white paper written by the National > Digital Inclusion Alliance (NDIA), a broadband advocacy group. > > https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/08/50-a-month-for-1mbps-how-att-and-verizon-rip-off-dsl-customers/ What is today's Verizon policy toward FIOS? There are lots of people who want it but can't get it. I do know Verizon can be heavy handed about implementing FIOS in a housing development. For instance, most modern developments have underground utility line distribution. But Vz won't do that for FIOS and insists on mounting rather ugly distribution junction boxes. I don't know why they're so hard-headed about this, since developments are telling Vz to take a hike and using inferior cable-TV provided services. Also, I know people with FIOS who are frustrated with the limited time the backup batteries last in a power failure. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <dbc7fb8f6f90659491aa72c6ac5cf43d.squirrel@email.fatcow.com> Date: 7 Aug 2018 23:51:29 -0500 From: "Neal McLain" <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> Subject: Re: New Jersey gets new area code Message-ID: <5B67AF17.1070204@panix.com> David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote; > Subject: New Jersey gets new area code > Naveen Albert <wirelessaction@outlook.com> asked: > > Why do telcos insist on doing overlays? They sound like > > such a pain. > I vigorously disagree. > Unlike a split, with an overlay no one has to surrender their > number for a new one. They keep it, period. > With a split, the border is often politically contentious. [snip] > Making splits requires predicting which parts will grow faster, > and which slower. Otherwise you soon split again. Indeed. As I have noted before, splits don't solve the problem; the just beget more splits. The extreme case is the Vero Beach/Fort Pierce/Port St. Lucie area in Florida. That area code has had four area codes: 305 Original area code assigned to the entire state. 407 Split from 305 in 1988 561 Split from 407 in 1997 772 Split from 561 in 2002 If the Florida Public Service Commission had opted for overlays the citizens of Vero Beach would not have had to deal with three area code changes. They might have had three overlaid area codes but nobody's number would have been changed. Four places in North America now have four overlaid area codes: New York City, Atlanta metro area, Houston metro area, and the entire Province of British Columbia. New York actually has seven area codes: -- Manhattan: 212, 332, 646, 917. -- Outer Boroughs: 347, 718, 917, 929. But note that 917 covers all five boroughs. So maybe New York doesn't have four overlaid area codes -- just 3.5 overlays. Just think what a mess Atlanta and Houston would be if the Florida PSC and the Texas PUC had opted for splits. Cut up like a pie? Or a donut inside a donut inside a donut inside a donut? Or gerrymandered like Chicago and Los Angeles? Neal McLain Brazoria, Texas ------------------------------ ********************************************* End of telecom Digest Sat, 11 Aug 2018