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| Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 06:58:52 -0700 (PDT) From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Union: Verizon Neglecting Copper Lines Message-ID: <9de27001-2764-4a7f-a856-7a489ad2b252@googlegroups.com> The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that the Communications Workers of America officials contend that Verizon has failed to fund the upkeep of its copper phone lines that still serve eight million customers and called for various state regulators to investigate. The CWA would like Verizon to wire the entire Phila metro area with FIOS, a capital investment that would support CWA jobs. But Verizon has said it will soon halt its FIOS expansion. for full article please see: http://www.philly.com/ |
| Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 02:57:05 -0400 From: tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: What are my options? Message-ID: <1ivt2n1buwius.1pnqde2iys0ec$.dlg@40tude.net> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 17:32:14 -0400, tlvp wrote: > ... Have you a Time/Temp info number (like the number > 1-203-777-4647 formerly serving New Haven, before Frontier axed it)? I've now learned (from a Frontier rep, who bemoaned with me the loss of 203-777-4647, but recalled with pleasure the Time/Temp number in the town -- Marion, OH -- of her childhood) of 1-740-383-2141. Still works, too -- it's a Date/Time/Temp/Promo line run by a local landscaping company :-) . Costs no more on Page Plus than any local call. And seems to be in the same time zone -- EDT now -- as Boston. Cheers again, and all best, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP. Duplicate? pardon, won't happen again. |
| Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 05:01:53 -0400 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: What are my options? Message-ID: <20150904090153.GA31823@telecom.csail.mit.edu> On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 02:57:05AM -0400, tlvp wrote: > I've now learned (from a Frontier rep, who bemoaned with me the loss of > 203-777-4647, but recalled with pleasure the Time/Temp number in the town > -- Marion, OH -- of her childhood) of 1-740-383-2141. Still works, too -- > it's a Date/Time/Temp/Promo line run by a local landscaping company :-) . I continue to have the problem, and also received a text message saying that I had to add money to the account - after I'd just signed up! I called the customer service line with the phone, and talked for over ten minutes without problem, and then the rep asked to call me back on my home phone, so we hanged up, but they haven't called back yet. Right after that call, I tried to call my home phone from the cell, but it cut off after about 15 seconds. What are the chances that this phone was locked to Verizon? Page Plus said that they could serve my phone's MEI, but I'm starting to wonder. -- Bill Horne Moderator |
| Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 07:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Southern New Jersey residents want fairness from Verizon Message-ID: <3399dfa8-adbc-4ab1-a384-dd515882f534@googlegroups.com> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 10:05:42 AM UTC-4, Eric Tappert wrote: > ***** Moderator's Note ***** > > I don't have one, sorry. Right after I started out, I asked a "rated" > man why certain pairs were designated for "battery supply", and he > said they were for charging PBX batteries. > > Anyone else have a citation? You are correct. Bell Laboratories Record articles on small PBX's, such as the 555, state that power was supplied by the central office. In addition, critical field infrastructure, such as concentrators, were also powered by the central office. |
| Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:35:25 -0400 From: Eric Tappert <e.tappert.spamnot@frontier.com> To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Southern New Jersey residents want fairness from Verizon Message-ID: <s6ajua9fc3ibsq6c1geprhamlegbf9hfif@4ax.com> On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 07:01:01 -0700 (PDT), HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> wrote: >On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 10:05:42 AM UTC-4, Eric Tappert wrote: > >> ***** Moderator's Note ***** >> >> I don't have one, sorry. Right after I started out, I asked a "rated" >> man why certain pairs were designated for "battery supply", and he >> said they were for charging PBX batteries. >> >> Anyone else have a citation? > >You are correct. Bell Laboratories Record articles on small PBX's, >such as the 555, state that power was supplied by the central office. > >In addition, critical field infrastructure, such as concentrators, >were also powered by the central office. I stand corrected, the 555 PBX was CO powered. However, it was a small cordboard and rarely had a local battery plant. If a local battery plant was used, there was a switch to disconnect it from the station equipment at night for recharging. Ringing was also provided from the CO over a cable pair. Distance from the CO was also limited due to the power loss in the one or two pairs used for power. Details can be found at http://beatriceco.com/bti/porticus/bell/pdf/bsp/BSP_B823.105_we_555_pbx_description.pdf In any event, one has to question the need for local battery plants when CO power is adequate for operation. Additionally, the amount of power available on a pair is severely limited and any kind of central control (i.e. one with modern features) PBX of any useful size would easily exceed that capability. I might also add that the vast majority of PBX users did not opt for the battery plant. Seems businesses didn't see a need for phones when the lights were out... As for outside plant equipment, the power limitations over cable pairs is severe and only the smallest loads (like repeaters and regenerators for carrier systems) are supplied by CO power over cable pairs. Look at the objections to the 2007 FCC (previously cited) ruling requiring concentrators and remote switches to have 8 hours of backup power to see the practical side of this. As a learned Bell Labs supervisor once said "There are a million ways to solve any problem and here in the Bell System there are million and one solutions in the field." Eric Tappert |
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