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The Telecom Digest for July 30, 2013
Volume 32 : Issue 163 : "text" Format
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Date: 29 Jul 2013 08:34:02 -0000
From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon telemarketers violating laws?
Message-ID: <20130729083402.2754.qmail@joyce.lan>
>I get very few if any telemarketer calls on my cell phone. Probably
>because I call block the really egregious stuff and block a lot of
>800/888/877 numbers.
You're just lucky. I get tons of junk calls on my cell phone, clearly
because it is on sucker lists that junk callers trade.
I've never given them anything more than instructing them to take me
off their list and then die, so I can only imagine what the previous
holder of the number did.
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:13:33 -0600
From: Fred Atkinson <fatkinson.remove-this@and-this-too.mishmash.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon telemarketers violating laws?
Message-ID: <A320EB7A-8D2D-486B-9170-3EADD85B8ABC@mishmash.com>
On Jul 29, 2013, at 2:34 AM, "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
>> I get very few if any telemarketer calls on my cell phone. Probably
>> because I call block the really egregious stuff and block a lot of
>> 800/888/877 numbers.
>
> You're just lucky. I get tons of junk calls on my cell phone, clearly
> because it is on sucker lists that junk callers trade.
>
> I've never given them anything more than instructing them to take me
> off their list and then die, so I can only imagine what the previous
> holder of the number did.
I very seldom get telemarketing calls. In fact, I cannot remember
getting one in the last few years. I have had my numbers on the
national DNC list for a very long time.
I rarely get survey calls either. When I have, I simply tell them
that I do not do surveys and please do not waste their time or mine by
calling me again.
For me, it works. When I hear all of this crying about it not
working, I wonder what people are doing to compromise their privacy.
Regards,
Fred
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 04:03:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neal McLain <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Google Said to Weigh Supplying TV Channels
Message-ID: <2d0f840a-ac16-42bc-bb50-ad06d24ccceb@googlegroups.com>
On Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:00:29 PM UTC-5, T wrote:
> In article <20130720190529.6205.qmail@joyce.lan>, johnl@iecc.com wrote:
>
> > >> If Google has its way, you might someday get cable television the
> > >> same way you get Gmail: through any ordinary Internet connection.
> > >>
> > >Er - how many of us get our internet connection from our cable company?
> > >IIRC naked internet isn't a very attractive buy.
> >
> > Remember that Google is building its own fiber to the home network in
> > Kansas City and other cities. That makes it a lot more interesting
> > than it is here in T-W land.
> >
> > At least we can get IPv6.
>
> I so hope Google jumps into other cities, particularly on the east
> coast. I'd love to see Cox and Verizon with a viable competitor like
> Google.
Competitor in which market? Internet access or video?
If you're discussing HSI, then I agree: Google has the advantage in speed.
If you're discussing video, then please explain how you think Google could be
a "viable competitor" to Cox and Verizon. Are you raising the "a-la-carte"
issue again? If so, please see previous discussions about this subject at
http://tinyurl.com/kf7u6xq
and
http://tinyurl.com/ms344lm
.
> ***** Moderator's Note *****
>
> I doubt they'll be able to. The existing LEC's, and the cable co's,
> have been busy locking up every available right-of-way for years.
> Bill Horne
> Moderator
Huh? How does one "lock up" right-of-way?
I agree that every new competitor has a more difficult time getting pole space
for overhead plant than previous occupants faced. At some point, pole space
on every pole reaches legal capacity as additional facilities are added. Of
course, if a pole were replaced at a previous occupant's request (at the
previous occupant's cost of course) then there might be plenty of space.
I agree that every new competitor has a more difficult time getting clear
space for underground plant. Every buried cable within a strip of ground
makes it more difficult for the next company to add another cable without
damaging existing cables. This is especially true in older established
neighborhoods where any attempt to bury anything has to deal with whatever is
on the surface. See my previous posts at
http://tinyurl.com/pkujr3c
and
http://tinyurl.com/m7h9jp5
.
I agree that every new competitor may have a more difficult time getting a
legal right to utilize existing rights-of-way. Landowners (local franchise
authorities, private property owners, government agencies, railroad companies)
have legitimate reasons for resisting additional facilities in their
rights-of-way (traffic disruption; surface damage; appearance; possible damage
to existing facilities). Even the most sanctimonious "we need competition for
our greedy cable company" homeowner may have second thoughts when a
construction crew arrives in his/her back yard.
All of these situations make it more difficult for the next guy (Google or
anybody else) to add new facilities to existing ROWs. But I don't see how
that justifies the claim that an existing LEC or CATV is attempting to "lock
up" the ROW.
Neal McLain
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 13:59:38 -0400
From: T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: MetroPCS 4G Service Issues
Message-ID: <MPG.2c5f261137017e9b989e4b@news.eternal-september.org>
So this past week my Samsung SCH-R910 started exhibiting odd behavior.
Voice calls would not work. But SMS and net services all worked just
fine.
Finally a few hours later the phone started working again and SMS and
net services too.
Then I get one of Metro's sneak voicemails saying I should bring my
phone in for a firmware upgrade. It went from v2.2.1 to v2.2.2. Now
knowing what firmware is, they upgraded the RF chip software.
Now the phone and SMS work but no 4G service whatsoever from the very
same location.
It appears they did some upgrade to the network that crippled voice
service, then rolled it back because they realized all the smart phones
had to have their firmware upgraded.
Then since I had the v2.2.2 firmware applied - no 4G service because
we're now on the older software load on the infrastructure.
Been round and round with support on this - they're useles.
I'm going back to the store on Monday or Tuesday and telling them either
back the firmware patch on my phone off, or give me a new phone that
works with ALL the services I'm paying for.
The reason this irritates me is that I use the net services on the phone
far more than I use voice service.
But this is indicative of a bigger problem. The cell carriers aren't
regulated like the old wired phone networks were. But I think it's time
the FCC steps in and starts regulating the hell out of them so stupid
stuff like this doesn't happen anymore.
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:26:03 -0500
From: Frank Stearns <franks.pacifier.com@pacifier.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon telemarketers violating laws?
Message-ID: <PdidnT1dkaJWfWjMnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@posted.palinacquisition>
Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> writes:
snip
>With an electronic butler guarding your phone line, and demanding a
>security code that they don't have and can't guess in time, their
>paradigm will, finally, be broken.
Bill -
Do you have any current brands to suggest? Several months back I found an entire
line that looked promising only to find that the company had gone out of business,
as had several others with similar offerings (perhaps they were all sourcing the
same machines from China and the that shop went under). Or, maybe the telemarketers
and buying and killing these manufacturers..
Thanks,
Frank
--
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:55:34 -0400
From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Verizon telemarketers violating laws?
Message-ID: <20130729115534.GA32587@telecom.csail.mit.edu>
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 10:26:03PM -0500, Frank Stearns wrote:
> Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> writes:
>
> >With an electronic butler guarding your phone line, and demanding a
> >security code that they don't have and can't guess in time, their
> >paradigm will, finally, be broken.
>
> Do you have any current brands to suggest? Several months back I found an entire
> line that looked promising only to find that the company had gone out of business,
> as had several others with similar offerings (perhaps they were all sourcing the
> same machines from China and the that shop went under). Or, maybe the telemarketers
> and buying and killing these manufacturers..
(I originally read your last sentence as "bullying and killing", but I
don't think we're at that stage yet. ;-) )
I don't have any manufacturers in mind: my device is also "MD", and I
have been thinking about getting a low-end Asterisk PBX, but I've been
busy with work and have had to make do with the usual answering
machine.
Bill
--
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