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The Telecom Digest for July 4, 2012
Volume 31 : Issue 162 : "text" Format
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Re: Cold call firms flaunt rules that block telemarketers (Pete Cresswell)
Re: Cold call firms flaunt rules that block telemarketers (Steven)

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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:45:10 -0400
From: Pete Cresswell <PeteCress@invalid.telecom-digest.org>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Cold call firms flaunt rules that block telemarketers  
Message-ID: <vcq3v7h34h0bt6ff8ngu7igbdn2nfqo4sp@4ax.com>

Per Joseph Singer:
>
>The problem is that the calls just keep coming - and coming.

And, IMHO, will continue to do so even if laws are passed (as in
the USA).

This is from the USA perspective of one who is on both the
nationwide and state Do-Not-Call lists.

Years ago, when the laws were new, reporting somebody actually
had an effect and unsolicited calls were rare.

I even got a few of bucks once when the state took a telemarketer
to court, won, and split the settlement among people who
complained.

Since then:

- Legislators get paid off to grant exceptions.   Oops... not
  "paid off".... To be politically correct: "Lobbied"....

- Telemarketers move offshore and hide behind multiple VOIP
  relays

- Various prosecutors give up trying to climb the technology
  curve.

- (I suspect) The free-market wing nuts manage to restrict
funding
  for prosecutions.

Bottom line, whatever the causes, our listed phone gets at least
three unsolicited calls per day 7 days a week and I've had to
resort to maxing out the greeting length on my cell phone just to
dodge most of the robo calls.

Some of the robo calls are bordering on abusive.   One got to my
answering machine a couple of days ago to the effect of "You may
have big problems with your XYZ credit card account and you'd
better call us quick before Bad Things happen...."

Needless-to-say, nobody's looking forward to the election
season....  I'm half-waiting for some wag to erect a sign on
their front lawn listing the total robo calls from each party as
a possible litmus test for which one to not vote for.

I'm pretty sure there is a technological fix that involves
challenge/response... but I don't think the service providers
have caught on to the potential demand yet.

But, IMHO, it's just a matter of time.
-- 
Pete Cresswell

***** Moderator's Note *****

I have a gadget that generates SIT tones whenever I go off-hook. It
seems to be working well, even for the politicians.

Bill Horne
Moderator




Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 09:40:02 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@ikillspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Cold call firms flaunt rules that block telemarketers  
Message-ID: <jsv794$6n6$1@dont-email.me>

On 7/2/12 11:45 AM, Pete Cresswell wrote:
> Per Joseph Singer:
>>
>> The problem is that the calls just keep coming - and coming.
>
> And, IMHO, will continue to do so even if laws are passed (as in
> the USA).
>
> This is from the USA perspective of one who is on both the
> nationwide and state Do-Not-Call lists.
>
> Years ago, when the laws were new, reporting somebody actually
> had an effect and unsolicited calls were rare.

[Moderator snip]

> I'm pretty sure there is a technological fix that involves
> challenge/response... but I don't think the service providers
> have caught on to the potential demand yet.
>
> But, IMHO, it's just a matter of time.

If you built the SIT generator, you should sell them.

-- 
The only good spammer is a dead one!!  Have you hunted one down today? 
(c) 2012 I Kill Spammers, Inc.  A Rot in Hell Co.






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