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The Telecom Digest for June 12, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 158 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Do landlines have a future with Generation Y? (Steven)
The Risks of Parenting While Plugged In (Monty Solomon)
When to Buy Your Child a Cellphone (Monty Solomon)
Re: Do landlines have a future with Generation Y? (Steve Hayes)
Don't use your mobile on a plane - especially if you are flying! (David Clayton)
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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:16:23 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Do landlines have a future with Generation Y?
Message-ID: <hus9q7$kek$1@news.eternal-september.org>
Dave Garland wrote:
> Marc Haber wrote:
>> John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
>>> About a week ago a customer returned phones I had sold him that
>>> morning. He was quite irate. He bought a cordless unit that included
>>> four handsets. He was furious that he could be on one handset and
>>> someone else in his house could pick up another handset and hear his
>>> conversation.
>> Is that really the case for US cordless phones? In Europe, landline
>> cordless phones simply say "busy" when another handset on the same
>> base/line is in use.
>
> The (US) Vtechs that I have show "EXTENSION IN USE" or "LINE IN USE"
> if another handset (or wired phone) is offhook, but do allow you to
> connect to the call anyhow. So they don't protect you from
> eavesdropping. It's probably a design decision, as there may well be
> circumstances where you want to patch in another user, and this way
> it has the same characteristics as wired extensions.
>
> Dave
In order to bring one of the extensions on mine you use the Intercom
function and then the other phone can join the call.
--
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:37:27 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: The Risks of Parenting While Plugged In
Message-ID: <p06240801c83634242e7b@[10.0.1.3]>
The Risks of Parenting While Plugged In
By JULIE SCELFO
June 9, 2010
WHILE waiting for an elevator at the Fair Oaks Mall near her home in
Virginia recently, Janice Im, who works in early-childhood
development, witnessed a troubling incident between a young boy and
his mother.
The boy, who Ms. Im estimates was about 2 1/2 years old, made
repeated attempts to talk to his mother, but she wouldn't look up
from her BlackBerry. "He's like: 'Mama? Mama? Mama?' " Ms. Im
recalled. "And then he starts tapping her leg. And she goes: 'Just
wait a second. Just wait a second.' "
Finally, he was so frustrated, Ms. Im said, that "he goes, 'Ahhh!'
and tries to bite her leg."
Much of the concern about cellphones and instant messaging and
Twitter has been focused on how children who incessantly use the
technology are affected by it. But parents' use of such technology -
and its effect on their offspring - is now becoming an equal source
of concern to some child-development researchers.
Sherry Turkle, director of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Initiative on Technology and Self, has been studying how parental use
of technology affects children and young adults. After five years and
300 interviews, she has found that feelings of hurt, jealousy and
competition are widespread. Her findings will be published in "Alone
Together" early next year by Basic Books.
In her studies, Dr. Turkle said, "Over and over, kids raised the same
three examples of feeling hurt and not wanting to show it when their
mom or dad would be on their devices instead of paying attention to
them: at meals, during pickup after either school or an
extracurricular activity, and during sports events."
Dr. Turkle said that she recognizes the pressure adults feel to make
themselves constantly available for work, but added that she believes
there is a greater force compelling them to keep checking the screen.
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/garden/10childtech.html
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:00:11 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: When to Buy Your Child a Cellphone
Message-ID: <p06240806c83773339942@[10.0.1.3]>
When to Buy Your Child a Cellphone
By STEFANIE OLSEN
June 9, 2010
David Poger had planned to buy his daughter Maya a cellphone when she
was 15 and in high school, but last year he and his wife caved when
she was 11.
"There was a lot of nagging and pleading," said Mr. Poger, who lives
in St. Louis, Miss. But for his wife, Stephanie, and him, he said,
"Safety was a big issue because she was walking downtown with her
school friends, going to movies and roller skating without us." He
added, "I still think she's too young."
Many parents these days face the same struggle as the Pogers: at what
age should you buy your child a cellphone? And when you do buy that
first phone, what kind should it be?
About 75 percent of 12- to 17-year-olds in the United States own a
mobile phone, up from 45 percent in 2004, according to an April study
by the Pew Internet and American Life Project, part of the Pew
Research Center. And children are getting their phones at earlier
ages, industry experts say. The Pew study, for example, found that 58
percent of 12-year-olds now had a cellphone, up from 18 percent in
2004.
Parents generally say they buy their child a phone for safety
reasons, because they want to be able to reach the child anytime.
Cost also matters to parents, cellphone industry experts say; phones
and family plans from carriers are both becoming more affordable.
Also, as adults swap out their old devices for newer smartphones, it
is easier to pass down a used phone.
But for children, it is all about social life and wanting to impress
peers. The Pew study found that half of 12- to 17-year-olds sent 50
text messages a day and texted their friends more than they talked to
them on the phone or even face to face.
Experts say the social pressure to text can get acute by the sixth
grade, when most children are 11 years old. Just ask Caroline
LaGumina, 11, of New Rochelle, N.Y., who got her phone last
Christmas. "I wanted to be able to text because my friends all text
each other."
So when is the right time to buy that first phone?
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/technology/personaltech/10basics.html
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:17:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: Steve Hayes <steve@red.honeylink.blue.co.uk>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Do landlines have a future with Generation Y?
Message-ID: <hutr3q$2a31$1@energise.enta.net>
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:27:19 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> John Mayson <john@mayson.us> wrote:
>>About a week ago a customer returned phones I had sold him that morning.
>> He was quite irate. He bought a cordless unit that included four
>>handsets. He was furious that he could be on one handset and someone
>>else in his house could pick up another handset and hear his
>>conversation.
>
> Is that really the case for US cordless phones? In Europe, landline
> cordless phones simply say "busy" when another handset on the same
> base/line is in use.
>
> Greetings
> Marc
Most phones I've seen work like that but Panasonic ones I bought
recently automatically conference a handset with any call that's
in progress when it's taken off hook just like those in the
original complaint.
That's like a wired extension and I prefer it since remembering
what buttons to push to transfer a call or put two people on at
once is much harder than shouting.
There may be an option switch to change this behaviour and
ensure privacy but I haven't bothered to look for it.
The bottom line is "they vary".
--
Steve Hayes, South Wales, UK -- please remove colours from address
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:42:42 +1000
From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Don't use your mobile on a plane - especially if you are flying!
Message-ID: <pan.2010.06.12.01.42.40.293370@myrealbox.com>
From
http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/texting-probe-on-jetstar-landing-alert-20100611-y3r5.html
Texting probe on Jetstar landing alert MATT O'SULLIVAN
June 12, 2010
AIR safety experts will investigate claims a Jetstar pilot was texting on
his mobile phone just before his jet was forced to pull out of a landing
at Singapore's Changi Airport.
Pilots on an A321-200 plane flying from Darwin received an on-board
warning when the plane carrying 167 passengers was just 122 metres above
the ground on approach to the airport in the early hours of May 27.
It is understood the so-called ''incorrect configuration warning'' was
triggered because the plane's landing gear was not down.
The pilots had to abort the landing. The 210-seater landed safely soon
after.
The investigation will examine allegations that one of the pilots on JQ57
was using his mobile phone to send messages shortly before the landing.
Neither investigators nor Jetstar would comment on this claim yesterday.
Last October two pilots of a Northwest Airlines aircraft overshot their
destination in the US by 160 kilometres because they were chatting and
using their laptops. The US Federal Aviation Administration revoked their
licences.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau confirmed it was investigating the
''missed approach'' in Singapore after the crew received an ''incorrect
configuration warning''.
Its director of aviation safety investigation, Ian Sangston, said the
probe was centred on what triggered the warning. He declined to comment on
whether it was because the landing gear was not down, saying there could
be several reasons for an alert.
He would not comment on claims that one pilot had been using his mobile
phone.
He did say, however, that the aircraft was ''lower than they would have
liked'' when the landing was aborted.
Investigators from the bureau are working with their Singaporean
counterparts.
It could take the bureau up to nine months to release a report on the
incident.
Jetstar spokesman Simon Westaway said the airline was helping the bureau
in its inquiries but he declined to comment further. ''We don't comment on
any circumstantial information,'' he said.
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