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The Telecom Digest for May 29, 2010
Volume 29 : Issue 145 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Best way to get cellular/SMS/MMS from UK to USA? (Gordon S. Hlavenka)
Re: Best way to get cellular/SMS/MMS from UK to USA? (John Mayson)
Re: Best way to get cellular/SMS/MMS from UK to USA? (John Levine)
Re: White Pages fading out? (Steven)
4G phone will quickly change things (Monty Solomon)
Text but don't talk in the air (David Clayton)
Re: White Pages fading out? (Jeff or Lisa)
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Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:23:54 -0500
From: "Gordon S. Hlavenka" <nospam@crashelex.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Best way to get cellular/SMS/MMS from UK to USA?
Message-ID: <htmret$ed8$1@news.eternal-september.org>
I know I've seen this discussed here before but usenet spools keep
getting shorter and I couldn't put together a sufficiently precise
search on the telecom-digest archives.
Anyway, my niece will be spending about a month in England and Ireland
this summer, possibly with day trips to neighboring countries.
Her US carrier is Verizon, so no GSM capability on her phone. My
off-the-cuff suggestion was to wait until she arrives across the pond
and then get a cheap prepaid phone at Tesco or somesuch. The rates to
the US would probably be pretty good and by going prepaid she'd avoid
ugly billing surprises. I'd like to give a more specific recommendation
if I can.
In a perfect world, she'd primarily send and receive text messages, send
a few photos, and occasionally make a voice call. Can this be done on
the relatively-cheap?
--
Gordon S. Hlavenka O- http://www.crashelex.com
"I might have run 'amok' against society; but I preferred that society
should run 'amok' against me, it being the desperate party." - Thoreau
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:40:00 -0500
From: John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Best way to get cellular/SMS/MMS from UK to USA?
Message-ID: <AANLkTimE7QGyRAu_fdyDkXFNqYjeAB1CLRxpZWUfrmDU@mail.gmail.com>
The advice I've received for The Netherlands is to buy a pre-paid cell
phone once in the country.
--
John Mayson <john@mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA
Date: 28 May 2010 20:31:41 -0000
From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Best way to get cellular/SMS/MMS from UK to USA?
Message-ID: <20100528203141.2613.qmail@joyce.lan>
>In a perfect world, she'd primarily send and receive text messages, send
>a few photos, and occasionally make a voice call. Can this be done on
>the relatively-cheap?
Yes. Tesco's OK, but there are mobile phone stores about every 20
feet on every high street in the UK. Find one of the stores that have
phones from multiple carriers, and she should be able to find an
adequate pay as you go phone for £10 or £15.
Most of the carriers have an international call plan. I have an O2
phone, and every time I top up with £10, my plan gives me an
additional 50 minutes in international calls, including to the US or
an additional 100 minutes if I top up with £15. So I can call back to
the US for free, and normal calls and texts cost what they cost, I
think 25p/min for the first 3 min/day, then 5p, 10p for international
text.
You might do some research ahead of time to see what plans to sugggest.
http://www.o2.co.uk/
http://www.orange.co.uk
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/
http://online.vodafone.co.uk
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:35:29 -0700
From: Steven <diespammers@killspammers.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: White Pages fading out?
Message-ID: <htndm1$ve$1@news.eternal-september.org>
Robert Bonomi wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 09:16:39 -0700 (PDT), Jeff or Lisa
> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 25, 10:57 am, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:
>>
>> The White Pages books I have have copyright notices are on them. One
>> has a copyright on every page.
>
> Anybody can claim whatever they want, and that claim, in_and_of itself,
> means _nothing_, legally.
>
> The fact remains that the U.S. Supreme Court =settled= the issue in
> "Feist V. Rural Telephone", 499 U.S. 340 (1991).
>
> Raw 'information' is not copyrightable; but "compilations" are.
>
> The SupCt held that the ordering of the data by a 'natural' scheme,
> such as 'alphabetical' order did NOT meet the creativity standard
> required for copyright to attach.
>
I remember years ago hearing that the telephone companies put names
addresses and phone numbers in the books to find out if someone was
using them for commercial purposes, then would bring legal action
against the person or company who used it.
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Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 07:30:09 -0400
From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: 4G phone will quickly change things
Message-ID: <p0624085ec8250b90abe8@[10.0.1.4]>
TECH LAB
4G phone will quickly change things
By Hiawatha Bray, Globe Staff | May 27, 2010
BALTIMORE - I'm only here for the day. No time to dine on soft-shell
crab; barely enough for a glance at Camden Yards, where the Orioles
play baseball. I'm a digital tourist, here mainly to stare at a
glowing LCD screen.
Still, I'm enjoying the tiny view; Web pages and Internet videos
downloaded at amazing speed by a device that fits into a shirt
pocket, lets me shoot high-definition videos, and can still be used
to call the folks back home.
It's called the EVO 4G, and it's our first glimpse at the next big
thing in smartphones. When cellular carrier Sprint Nextel Corp.
begins selling the EVO on June 4, it will be America's first 4G
cellphone, capable of far greater speed than the 3G iPhones and
BlackBerries we have come to love.
But why fly 360 miles to check it out? Because Boston doesn't have a
working 4G network yet. Baltimore is one of about two dozen US cities
where you can find one. Sprint says it's building more 4G coverage as
fast as it can; Boston is on the list for sometime this year.
...
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2010/05/27/4g_phone_will_quickly_change_things/
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:50:48 +1000
From: David Clayton <dcstar@myrealbox.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Text but don't talk in the air
Message-ID: <pan.2010.05.28.23.50.46.302366@myrealbox.com>
From
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/texting-browsing-to-be-al
lowed-inflight-20100528-wiv8.html
Texting, browsing to be allowed in-flight
May 28, 2010 - 1:14PM
Passengers flying on some Air New Zealand planes will be able to send text
messages and emails mid-flight, by the end of the year.
But the airline must convince the NZ Civil Aviation Authority that the
practice is safe before an exemption is granted to a rule that prohibits
the use of portable electronic devices on flights, The New Zealand Herald
reported.
The national carrier plans to allow people to send and receive text
messages and emails on their iPhones, Blackberries and GSM mobiles on
their new 777-300 aircrafts by November.
The new service would also allow passengers to go online using their
mobile broadband connection, but the airline doesn't plan to allow voice
calls on board.
Passengers will be requested to keep their phones on silent mode, Air New
Zealand Group general manager Ed Sims said.
Customers will be billed by their own mobile service, like any other
global roaming plan, but in-flight costs will apply.
A press release from Air New Zealand said the service is "subject to
regulatory approval".
A spokesman for the Civil Aviation Authority told reporters the exemption
would be similar to the one which allows the use of phones on "flight
mode" after take-off and before landing.
The airline and the authority are in discussions and would come to an
agreement before the service is launched at the end of the year, the
Herald said.
AAP
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:46:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff or Lisa <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com>
To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: White Pages fading out?
Message-ID: <771751a1-61db-4dfd-ad66-234357434022@b21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com>
On May 27, 2:03 pm, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
> The fact remains that the U.S. Supreme Court =settled= the issue in
> "Feist V. Rural Telephone", 499 U.S. 340 (1991).
>
> Raw 'information' is not copyrightable; but "compilations" are.
>
> The SupCt held that the ordering of the data by a 'natural' scheme,
> such as 'alphabetical' order did NOT meet the creativity standard
> required for copyright to attach.
When does 'raw information' become a "compilation"?
Telephone directories not only list names, but also addresses and
phone numbers. Phone numbers are assigned by the telephone company,
historically phone numbers were proprietary belonging to and under the
control of the phone company. (I don't think number portability
existed when the Feist case was initially filed).
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