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| Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:13:08 -0700
From: Don Y <anonymous@invalid.telecomdigest.us>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Theaters Struggle With Patrons' Phone Use during shows
Message-ID: <mo9rrg$ql$1@speranza.aioe.org>
On 7/16/2015 7:32 AM, Bill Horne wrote:
> On 7/15/2015 3:11 PM, Don Y wrote:
>> ... imagine if the cash register in the 10-items-or-less lane at the
>> checkout actually refused to process more than 10 items!
>
> A store manager would never countenance such a thought: it would cut into
> impulse sales, and the candy, batteries, and pulp magazines offered at
> checkout kiosks are the highest-profit items.
>
> Here's the secret to success in retail: the guy who ticks off the least number
> of customers wins.
Of course. Hence my comment that:
"they never see other customers taking their business elsewhere hence
no cost of 'failed enforcement'"
How do you count the number of NONcustomers that you have??
I have a simpler solution (for me):
I state, in a loud voice, "Gee, it must be really tough to be
YOUR age and still unable to count!" ...
***** Moderator's Note *****
That doesn't work. Those who break such rules crave attention and
envy from others whom obey them, so your opprobrium reinforces the
behavior, while making other customers uncomfortable.
That's why many markets don't have "10 or less" checkouts: in some
locales, it repels more customers than it attracts.
Bill Horne
Moderator
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| Date: 17 Jul 2015 03:47:03 -0000
From: "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Theaters Struggle With Patrons' Phone Use during shows
Message-ID: <20150717034703.34553.qmail@ary.lan>
>>E.g., imagine if the cash register in the 10-items-or-less lane at the
>>checkout actually refused to process more than 10 items! And, the
>>charge/debit-card reader refused to process another transaction on
>>the same "card/account" for 5 minutes. I.e., only your first 10 items
>>will be allowed to be purchased -- no need for the employee to play
>>policeman, etc.
What a ridiculous idea. All the time I come up to the checkouts at
the supermarket with 15 or so items, I walk past the empty 10 item
lane and the clerk waves at me to come in, since he's not doing
anything else. I would prefer he not be saddled with a register
that imagines that it knows his business better than he does.
For the cell phone problem, I'd suggest a slide at the beginning of
the movie telling patrons to feel free to shout STOP USING YOUR PHONE
at nearby miscreants as loudly as possible. No high tech needed, and
I expect it could be quite effective.
R's,
John
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| Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 13:09:44 +1000
From: David Clayton <dc33box-usenet2@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Theaters Struggle With Patrons' Phone Use during shows
Message-ID: <pan.2015.07.17.03.09.40.556224@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au>
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:42:39 -0400, Bill Horne wrote:
.......
> The game isn't about enforcing the "rules". The political game is run so
> as to make sure that few people know how many are breaking the rules. If
> nobody complains about the use of cellphones in theaters, the problem
> doesn't exist.
.......
I suppose the base issue it that technology now allows people to
inappropriately use their toys in environments that obviously annoy and
inconvenience others.
Trying to find a technological solution to a behavioural issue usually
results in all sorts of other consequences and may not be that effective -
but that is almost the story of modern human history and is an ongoing
challenge.
Perhaps the best technical "solution" for this particular issue is a
system that detects use of phones in the venue and then (using the
Internet to ID them) displays the names and images of the phone owners on
big screens in the foyer for all the other patrons to see who disturbed
their experience? ;-)
- -
Regards, David.
David Clayton
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.
***** Moderator's Note *****
In the military, the first day of a film showing is reserved for
officers. It's not just a privilege, it's a necessity: enlisted men
are sometimes in the habit of trying to become part of the
performance, by responding to events on screen and interjectiing their
own commentary for all to hear.
That is, of course, irritating to those whom are accustomed to sitting
quietly and allowing others to do the same. Of course, in the
military, officers have the authority to order enlisted men to be
quiet, but that might degrade morale, since wives and children are
often present.
Unless theater owners are willing to have (and enforce) separate
showings for cellphone users, the problem of cellphone use in theaters
will elude solutions.
Bill Horne
Moderator
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| Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 12:10:30 -0400
From: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Theaters Struggle With Patrons' Phone Use during shows
Message-ID: <barmar-4FC50C.12103017072015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In article <pan.2015.07.17.03.09.40.556224@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au>,
David Clayton <dc33box-usenet2@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> I suppose the base issue it that technology now allows people to
> inappropriately use their toys in environments that obviously annoy and
> inconvenience others.
In a world where we have to pass laws telling people not to text while
driving, which is actually dangerous, is there really any hope to
stopping people from texting in theatres, which is merely annoying?
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
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| Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:00:44 -0700
From: John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: Re: Theaters Struggle With Patrons' Phone Use during shows
Message-ID: <mobtu5$tos$1@blue-new.rahul.net>
On 2015-07-17 09:10, Barry Margolin wrote:
> In a world where we have to pass laws telling people not to text
> while driving, which is actually dangerous, is there really any hope
> to stopping people from texting in theatres, which is merely
> annoying?
Not if it takes a law to do it. That's why tech methods make more
sense.
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| Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 17:44:00 -0400
From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
To: telecomdigestsubmissions.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org.
Subject: FCC hits t-mobile with 17.5 million dollar fine for "911" outage
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1507171743210.25930@panix5.panix.com>
FCC REACHES $17.5 MILLION SETTLEMENT WITH T-MOBILE FOR NATIONWIDE 911
OUTAGES. New Compliance Plan Will Improve 911 Service Reliability.
Washington, D.C., July 17, 2015 - The Federal Communications
Commission's Enforcement Bureau has reached a $17.5 million settlement
with T-Mobile, resolving an investigation into two 911 service outages
that occurred on the company's national network last year. The
separate but related outages, which together lasted approximately
three hours, prevented T-Mobile customers from reaching first
responders when making wireless 911 calls. As part of the settlement,
T-Mobile has agreed to strengthen its 911 service procedures and to
adopt robust compliance measures to ensure that it adheres to the
FCC's 911 service reliability and outage notification rules in the
future.
"The Commission has no higher priority than ensuring the reliability
and resilience of our nation's communications networks so that
consumers can reach public safety in their time of need," said FCC
Chairman Tom Wheeler. "Communications providers that do not take
necessary steps to ensure that Americans can call 911 will be held to
account."
News Release. News Media Contact: Will Wiquist at (202) 418-0509,
email: Will.Wiquist@fcc.gov EB
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-334433A1.docx
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-334433A1.pdf
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-334433A1.txt
(FCC postngs are generally available in Microsoft Word "doc" format,
along with PDF and more-or-less basic text. The URLs will usually be
the same with the exception of the trailing extension)
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