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The Telecom Digest for May 22, 2011
Volume 30 : Issue 129 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
Re: Apple's filing in Apple v. Samsung(Sam Spade)
any phone service offering pseudo-anonymous, throwaway, numbers?(danny burstein)
Re: Open Wi-Fi Hotspots (now SSL security)(David Clayton)
Re: Apple's filing in Apple v. Samsung(David Clayton)

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Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 02:41:46 -0700 From: Sam Spade <sam@coldmail.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Apple's filing in Apple v. Samsung Message-ID: <59GdnTfKSKdGFUrQnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@giganews.com> Monty Solomon wrote: > Apple's filing in Apple v. Samsung (PDF) > April 15, 2011 > http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/110415samsungcomplaint.pdf > > ***** Moderators Note ***** > > If torts were decided on the basis of hype, Applie would win easily: > here's a snippet from the first page of the filing: > > The iPhone was radically different. In one small and lightweight > handheld device, it offered sophisticated mobile phone functions, a > multi-touch screen that allows users to control the phone with their > fingers, music storage and playback, a mobile computing platform for > handheld applications, and full access to the Internet. These features > were combined in an elegantly designed product with a distinctive user > interface, icons, and eye-catching displays that gave the iPhone an > unmistakable look. > > Bill Horne > Moderator > The entire complaint is more advertising than a legal action. It looks nice, though.
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:18:19 -0400 From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: any phone service offering pseudo-anonymous, throwaway, numbers? Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1105211011480.10170@panix5.panix.com> With the data mining and information selling/swapping that goes on, if you give your phone number (traditional, VOIP, cellular, etc.) to the car tire fixer place [a]... it'll soon be on The List for plenty of other vendors to annoy and harass you. And don't even think about what happens if you hand it to a political group.. [a] vendor chosen as an example, no harm intended. But there are times you pretty much have to give folk a number to reach you. Having my own internet domains I can simply make-up an e-mail address and destroy it a month later. And there are commercial services with similar options. But doing it with a phone number is trickier. I was thinking of... a system/company that offers up phone numbers, and then lets you pick and choose "extensions" in it, which you could either route to your "real" number, to v-mail, or send back to oblivion when no longer needed. For example, the company might have, among other numbers, 808-555-1000. You could get "rights to", for want of a better term, extensions "752-1000" through "752-1999", and assign them as you chose. So getting back to that tire place where you want them to reach you, you'd activate ext. 752-1222 to call out to your real number (or go to v-mail). Two months later, when you start getting marketing garbage, you'd simply kill it off. Anyone know of any service that has this? (And yes, I realize this would be almost practical for anyone with their own "Asterisk" system, but that requires the equipment, the set up, and oodles of upfront money, effort, and maintenance). Thanks _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:22:04 +1000 From: David Clayton <dcstarbox-usenet@yahoo.com.au> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Open Wi-Fi Hotspots (now SSL security) Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.21.03.22.00.40383@yahoo.com.au> On Fri, 20 May 2011 18:25:05 -0500, Gordon Burditt wrote: >>> One of the certificate authorities recently discovered that it had >>> mistakenly issued certs for websites that weren't owned by the domain >>> name registrant. No system is perfect: SSL has weak points, too. > > SSL has two different purposes: > (1) ensuring that you are communicating with (and giving your credit card > number to) the thief you think you are talking with, and > > (2) ensuring that all the other thieves can't listen in and get a crack at > your credit card before the first thief puts it unencrypted on a laptop > and loses it at an airport. > > If you only need (2), an anonymous self-signed certificate with no owner > name/identification on it whatsoever for each web server is sufficient. > You don't need certificate authorities at all. Most of the user-visible > features of SSL in a browser are for (1). ......... I set up Windows SBS servers on an ongoing basis and one of their features is remote web access to e-mail etc., and Self-issued certificates work well (I also have a philosophical objection to paying a third-party outrageous annual fees to "certify" to others that I am who I am). Most users don't know or care what colour the funny little padlock icon on their browser is. -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:24:47 +1000 From: David Clayton <dcstarbox-usenet@yahoo.com.au> To: telecomdigestmoderator.remove-this@and-this-too.telecom-digest.org. Subject: Re: Apple's filing in Apple v. Samsung Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.21.03.24.46.408348@yahoo.com.au> On Fri, 20 May 2011 22:40:21 -0400, Monty Solomon wrote: > Apple's filing in Apple v. Samsung (PDF) April 15, 2011 > http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/110415samsungcomplaint.pdf > > ***** Moderators Note ***** > > If torts were decided on the basis of hype, Applie would win easily: > here's a snippet from the first page of the filing: > > The iPhone was radically different. In one small and lightweight > handheld device, it offered sophisticated mobile phone functions, a > multi-touch screen that allows users to control the phone with > their fingers, music storage and playback, a mobile computing > platform for handheld applications, and full access to the > Internet. These features were combined in an elegantly designed > product with a distinctive user interface, icons, and eye-catching > displays that gave the iPhone an unmistakable look. > > Bill Horne > Moderator "...allows users to control the phone with their fingers", yep there's a real innovation. What did we use previously, sticks? -- Regards, David. David Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a measure of how many questions you have.
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