---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <orti9t$p4h$1@reader2.panix.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:42:21 +0000 (UTC) From: David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> Subject: Re: American Tower Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> writes: > We're the only cell-tower company with global reach - with nearly > 150,000 sites in 15 different countries on five continents. And > we're the leading independent provider of towers in the largest > free-market democracies on all five of those continents. Nobody > else even comes close to our size and reach. http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2017/10/10/boston-execs-factoids/ American Tower bought the majority of the AT&T Long-Lines microwave sites. (Ma had ~3000 at one point.) American Tower sold some, and lease out space on others. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close.......................... Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <a7833fa3-38b1-4ff1-9907-d4e1a7719c5a@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:20:13 -0700 (PDT) From: HAncock4 <withheld@invalid.telecom-digest.org> Subject: Re: Why Does Verizon Care About Telephone Poles? On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 11:59:37 PM UTC-4, Bill Horne wrote: > Public street poles may not look like much, but to wireless service > providers, they're valuable real estate. Companies like Verizon want > low-cost access to them to install equipment to handle the rapidly > growing demand for mobile data. But poles are owned locally, and > cities and counties aren't eager to give away access at below-market > rates. Doing so would essentially subsidize an already wealthy > industry - nationwide, as much as $2 billion a year, money that could > otherwise go to expanding low-cost broadband access for people like > Omar's family. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/03/opinion/wireless-verizon-telephone-poles.html FWIW, here is an article from WUTR describing the engineering necessary to build pole lines. A lot of factors have to be considered. (There is also the pole itself--what kind of wood, what kind of preservation treatment, etc.) http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/technical/western-union-tech-review/09-1/p024.htm ***** Moderator's Note ***** Some years ago, I told a friend of mine who was in the "Holes and Poles" end of the business that I was going to use one of the pine trees in my backyard to hold up my ham radio antenna. He laughed, and said that was a bad idea: "Telephone poles," he told me, "are made of Southern Yellow Pine, which is a hardwood. Your yard has Northern White Pine, which is used to make matchsticks!" Bill Horne Moderator ------------------------------ Message-ID: <orug87$2sa$1@dont-email.me> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:13:25 -0400 From: Steve Stone <n2ubp@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Analysis: AT&T's race against time to save its TV business Monthly bill creep and added on surcharges certainly don't help sell DirecTV to the masses. Neither does the programming content of so many channels that carry nothing but home shopping, holy rollers looking for donations in exchange of salvation, or never ending buckets of reruns that are not related to the channels stated theme. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20171015030131.GA25358@telecom.csail.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 23:01:31 -0400 From: Bill Horne <bill@horneQRM.net> Subject: Verizon extends data relief for customers in areas impacted by Northern CA wildfires Verizon is extending its initial data relief offer for customers impacted by the wildfires in Northern California by three days, through October 15, 2017. For customers in qualified counties in Northern California, Verizon is giving postpaid customers talk, text and data relief while prepaid customers receive an extra 3 GB for talk, text and data. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/verizon-extends-data-relief-for-customers-in-areas-impacted-by-northern-ca-wildfires-300535839.html -- Bill Horne (Remove QRM from my email address to write to me directly) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <f322uclrdmvtmm698kvhtv0ctks79ltpdq@4ax.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 19:44:40 +0100 From: Stephen <stephen_hope@xyzworld.com> Subject: Re: The Rise of Fiber Infrastructure On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 15:11:20 -0500, "Neal McLain" <nmclain.remove-this@and-this-too.annsgarden.com> wrote: >By the editors, FireceCable, October 11, 2017 >The dawn of the 5G era will require a massive infusion of fiber deep >into networks to provide a foundation for the explosion of mobile data >traffic that will occur around 2020. To prepare for this infusion, you >need to plan now for your next fiber upgrade. >https://pages.questexweb.com/RiseOfFiber-October2017-RegistrationPage.html?source=FCfull1011&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiT1RGbE1tUTJNamszWmpNNCIsInQiOiJ5RzRuVjk3R1wvSGlBNXRMTGhCM051VVwvbmlWMldtT1wvNHdzNkpWTDBmQmphS1hNcUxmM2JxN0p0SE9pQXFZVWFldHVUajk3dFhIU3VRUWtjU0xiaW1uXC9cLzkwSVl3S2xHbjNpZmZvVmFMaWoreUx3bGRHY21xenJpRHo2Sk1Qd1hYIn0%3D >-or- >http://tinyurl.com/yaf84uko > >Neal McLain That URL has your contact info filled in..... Back to the question - the assumption made here is that 5G gets deployed with all the bells and whistles + high frequency options which push the bandwidth needed on a cell into N x Gbps. However, it will be like 4G - different allocations and frequencies will imply different distance limits and bit rates. [At this time], for 4G, it has turned out that high bandwidth is mainly in cities and hot spots, but many more rural cells run with microwave backhaul at 100 Mbps to fractional Gbps. The 1st rollout to get sensible 5G coverage isn't going to use a cell [on every] lampost, except where the user density makes it worthwhile. -- Stephen ------------------------------ ********************************************* End of telecom Digest Sun, 15 Oct 2017